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Old 07-09-2023, 04:17 PM   #291 (permalink)
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Water wheel is the least efficient method of extracting power. You want to at least get a pelton water wheel.

Found some neat videos. Haven't looked recently so it's fun to see so many new projects documented.


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They want to live off grid, be left alone and leave other people alone?
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Definitely....

But wait, there's more:
  • hydraulic ram into a gravity vortex
  • extract electricity from flowing water

The ram increases the head with a bypass flow.

The gravity vortex accelerates the flow

Triboelecricity from the paddles or [possibly] the Pelton wheel was in Episode 1975:
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Anymore 'Muricans need to generate about a Kw to get through the day as a minimum. so your alternator needs to produce probably around a hundred amps continuously. Not really practical for an automotive part.
IIRC some (if not all nowadays) full-size trucks have alternators with a capacity larger than 220-amp. But anyway, other factors should've been considered too. But for my usage, with fewer "adaptations" to decrease overall electricity usage while not compromising comfort at all, would still be suitable. Sure with more folks at home steadily, and eventually running all the appliances on electric power only, there would be a need to scale it up.
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Yes larger capacity alternators are available, but they won't output their rated max capacity for long before they self destruct. A Kw is reasonable
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eAssist with serpentine belt. 15HP/11kW.
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eAssist with serpentine belt. 15HP/11kW.
Weren't those ones water-cooled? That might enhance long-term durability. Not sure if it's also brushless, which might also decrease wear and tear and require fewer maintenance.
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Confirmed. maybe....

eAssist thread is here. https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...tml#post536952

But tthe quote is from a link that rotted.

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The starter/generator is liquid cooled and has its own radiator and electric pump. The small radiator is mounted behind the engine coolant radiator near the top. The pump is operated with a relay that controls the power side of the pump circuit. It’s a simple on/off circuit, so the pump has only one speed. The coolant temperature sensor is a familiar negative-temperature-coefficient (NTC) thermistor connected to the control module’s 5-volt reference signal, but it’s built into the starter/generator and cannot be replaced.
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As it's brushless, it may not be so bad at all, yet it works at a much higher voltage, while it's easier to find appliances suitable to operate either on 12-volt in a car or 24-volt in some commercial trucks. Controllers would become more complicated for an improvised setup relying on those components.

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