Renewable Energy Is The Future

[oil pan 4]

More natural gas and propane appliances will remove stress from the power grid, especially with all the electric vehicles being sold.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

More natural gas and propane appliances will remove stress from the power grid, especially with all the electric vehicles being sold.

No, you see, politicians know how to engineer complex systems that provide critical infrastructure like energy than the stupid free market and actual engineers. This is why we need to rip out all natural gas appliances and replace with electric while simultaneously shutting down nuclear plants and cranking out solar and wind, and requiring all vehicles be EV by next Tuesday. These Great Leaders know what's best for us.

I'm looking forward to all the savings being reflected in my utility bill, and all the extra reliability.

... when power was out for a week, I had hot water, fireplaces (power did go out because it was freezing), and cooking. That's everything needed to get through a day without being inconvenienced much.

Once I spun up the genset, I had absolutely everything else. While the rest of the neighborhood looked like North Korea, my house looked like Christmas.

[oil pan 4]

Well the US could switch all on road vehicle over to electric for about a 20% increase in yearly electrical demand. But we would have to build more real power plants that work at night and when the wind isn't blowing.

[freebeard]

Well the US could switch all on road vehicle over to electric for about a 20% increase in yearly electrical demand. But we would have to build more real power plants that work at night and when the wind isn't blowing.

The wind is always blowing. There are occasional stagnant spots.

If we'd built nothing but off-grid geodesic domes since the 1970s, the grid wouldn't have been built out and we'd really be up Paddless Creek.

[oil pan 4]

The problem is when the wind stops it can stop over thousands of square miles. Then electricity needs to be brought in from other regions.

[redpoint5]

Distribution is a problem, but it's not the biggest.

The biggest problem is that building electricity generation on unpredictable and unreliable energy sources necessitates building out many times more infrastructure than what average production would otherwise require.

The example I give is that I produce 5x more solar in the summer than winter, but use the most electricity in the winter. It's untenable to build out 5x more infrastructure than I need in the summer just so I can get through the winter.

You turn the environmental disaster that is littering the earth with panels and turbines, multiply it by 5x more than average need, building out expensive grid interconnections, at extreme cost, to solve zero problems.

It's an expensive solution in search of a problem to solve.

[oil pan 4]

But the green simps say wind and solar is cheapest. Lol

[freebeard]

The biggest problem is that building electricity generation [is political]

It was extra ordinary when the USofA went from a position of strength to a basket case with the change of a single administration, just by turning off one pipeline and blowing up another.

[a Conspiracy Theorist would say]

[redpoint5]

The conspiracy theories have been turning out to be likely true as of late.

Lab leak was a crazy conspiracy theory... but now the most accepted explanation.

[freebeard]

My perception was that it went from obvious on it's face -- to not -- to back again.

'A _____ would say' lifted from G. Gutfeld.