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Old 05-06-2020, 11:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Replacing Mom's window trim with dry rot

I swear that I made a post about this!

However, I cannot find anything.

So, I decided to surprise Mom for Mother's Day--2018. She didn't like the rough-hewn trim and the paint was peeling off. I pained the house in 2007 and had a horrible time with the trim. I could not just sand it without removing the trim texture, but when I used my random orbital sander on a piece of trim, it quickly gummed up the new sanding disc and hardly removed any paint.

It turns out that the answer is a planer. I ran the good boards through once or twice and it made short work of the bad paint and annoying texture.

Anyway, I thought that where possible I would flip the boards over, but about half of them had dry rot, so I decided to replace them. Unfortunately, the boards that I bought were a little too small, and the original pieces did not have rounded corners, so I bought a planer and turned 2x6es into 1x4s:



Yeah, that took a while, and the price-per-board was ridiculous.

Today I saw this video:

I could have cleaned out the rotted wood and used epoxy filler?!

That system costs $200!

I wished that I had seen this video before I bought the planer, but $200 for epoxy or $350 for a planer, although I would have used a coupon, and the more expensive the product, the harder that I would have looked for a coupon. It was $250 just a couple of weeks ago.

Someone commented that the epoxy cost $200, but the manufacturer sells it for $67. The special gun is $72. With shipping the total is $161.12.

However, I found other products for much less. Are they as good? I do not have any idea. Minwax has great reviews, but many people say that it is just Bondo with a different label and higher price tag.

Many people commented that they could have just used Bondo and saved tons of money.

Well, Mother's Day is coming up again, I should really finish this finally!

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I hate water damage. Cut it out and do it right or pay dearly later.
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I hate water damage. Cut it out and do it right or pay dearly later.
Exactly. This started with a small section of rot on some trim I found before I started repainting the house. I took the trim off, then the sheeting, then had to cut out and replace some of the framing on the roof and chimney. The builders didn't install the flashing correctly between the chimney and roof on the upslope side of the chimney and water had been running down wall between the siding and sheeting for years.
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Unfortunately, the boards that I bought were a little too small, and the original pieces did not have rounded corners, so I bought a planer and turned 2x6es into 1x4s....
This job calls for a table saw.

I had to do the same thing for the project above. I used a tile saw with a wood blade because that is what I had at the time but a table saw makes it much easier and safer.
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Good news! I have a tablesaw!

So... making it work is yet another thing on my to-do list?

https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...tml#post572812
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Monday was supposed to be the first--and last--day in a while that would stay warm enough to paint, over 50 and not below freezing for two nights!

Then one night.

Then I couldn't find a paintbrush or white paint, so I ran to Family Dollar (and CAL Ranch next door). I couldn't find old uniform pants, just a top, and I wasn't wearing that by itself, so I bought a long-sleeve shirt and pants while I was there. Those were fluffy and I didn't see the brush or dropcloth that I grabbed while I was there--or the complete lack thereof.

I rushed home, changed my clothes, and then spent far too long looking through my car, retracing my steps, and searching the few places that I had been.

It was 40 and dropping when I went back and the lady apologized for not giving me all of my stuff.

Allegedly we will have 5 days of snow, so who knows when I will finally be able to paint?
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I put a couple layers of primer on those boards and about five of CAL Ranch paint.
I finally had my brother help me move Dad's old treadmill into the garage and bring in my dresser.

For the first time in 3 years I have a dresser!

The "interesting mix of socks and books" that freebeard noted are properly stored!

I found the original paint I bought!

Hopefully that works better than the CAL Ranch stuff.

I used a speed square to mark the 45 cuts, but there is a gap on each outside edge. I read the best way to fill that is with caulk, but I couldn't find anything on-line that explained the best exterior caulk that can withstand freezing temperatures.

Having reread the thread (that Xist guy is hilarious!), I am thinking that I should buy a can of Bondo and write Minwax on it.

Well, these guys say to not use Bondo outside because the wood expands and contracts, but Bondo doesn't, so it will fail:


They say to use some epoxy. I cannot find anything specific. It is allegedly on this page somewhere.

What if, instead, I buy a router, and cut a V-groove on each corner, cut a piece to fit, glue it in place, and tack it with finishing nails?

I am sure that many people would say to redo it, but cutting V-grooves and replacement pieces sounds vastly easier than planing new boards dozens of times.

This is what it took to get the first four boards:

This is what I did today:

I forgot to leave a board for scale.

A 2x4 is 1.5" thick.
The rough-cut house trim is 1" thick.
The planed house trim is .75" thick.
A 1x4 is .5" thick.

However, the original trim is about 3.5" wide, so I planed 2x4s, 24 passes each board, but planing 2x6es would have required about another 64 runs.

24/88 = 27%, so I did about four times as work as I needed to the first time. Of course, as JSH mentioned, a table saw would have trimmed the sides in one pass, and would have made it thinner with two passes, although I would need to do four to square all four corners.

I should have been able to make a rig to trim 1.75" off of a 4x6, but I wouldn't try that for the faces.

You aren't supposed to measure trim per se, you just hold up each board to the window, and mark it that way. Honestly, that sounds easier and more accurate than using a measuring tape, but since I messed up the corners, I think that I will measure it, add 1/8", make sure that everything is square, nail the corners together, and then saw both pieces at the same time.

Even if I get the angle wrong, they will be complementary, so I should be good.
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I couldn't find old uniform pants, just a top, and I wasn't wearing that by itself, so I bought a long-sleeve shirt and pants while I was there.
Missed that in January. So you bought new pants and shirts. Did you wear the new clothes to paint in, or your old ones?
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I bought new clothes specifically for painting, but they were cheap sweats.
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Only problem with your nail in place and cut it trick is that you will leave a kerf the width of the saw blade and thus have a gap in your trim in the very corners you are trying to hide the gaps.

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