11-02-2013, 11:25 PM
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This doesn't apply to me at all right now, but I appreciate this knowledge on EOC w/ a turbo.
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12-16-2013, 03:28 PM
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Question, Ecomodders:
The European Fiesta 1.0L has start-stop function, a feature unavailable on the US model. How does that function with the turbo? Does anyone know if the Euro Fiesta has a different turbo/cooling system design, or are they identical?
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01-14-2014, 08:38 PM
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I just bought mine!
I just took delivery of my new Fiesta. This is the car I have always wished Ford would make. I can answer a few questions about the car. Generally, if something is cheap and really works, like grill shutters, and the car does not have it, there is a good reason for it. Air flow is critical with a turbo and any risk under the most extreme conditions possible means it won't be put into production. That's my guess anyway. Europe does have a stop-start version so it can be done. Maybe the U.S. market isn't ready for it. It does have regenerative braking or a mild form of it anyway. It doesn't have to be the cheapest car out there because it is so nice to drive. You buy a really fun to drive small car and 45+ mpg is a bonus. Most importantly, will it match the EPA rating? My early results in subfreezing, mixed driving on winter gas says it will blow them away. I'm on track to beat the highway rating already, well before the break in period.
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01-14-2014, 08:47 PM
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Thanks for the update.
I've now seen comments on several sites from Fiesta 1.0t owners saying they can easily beat EPA with these cars. (Of course the cynic in me says this may also be Ford running a covert social media campaign to try to reverse damage from their earlier MPG ratings overstatements! )
As for the question of active grille shutters on a turbo, GM has them on the turbo Cruze ECO...
Sounds like they're a fun car. I hope Ford sells lots so they're available on the used market in a few years. I'd love to try one.
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01-14-2014, 09:30 PM
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I was at the Ford stealership yesterday; cute lil Fiesta hatch was $20,000 and the showroom had a $65,000 Rustang. I left emptyhanded.
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01-15-2014, 08:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank Lee
I was at the Ford stealership yesterday; cute lil Fiesta hatch was $20,000 and the showroom had a $65,000 Rustang. I left emptyhanded.
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GT500 Rustang?
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01-15-2014, 11:32 AM
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Give the 2 dr a year or two and one will come up at the salvage auction.
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01-15-2014, 04:00 PM
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Yes, GT 500. I was on a several mile walking parts run- thought for giggles I'd see what the stealership wanted for a F150 thermostat: $20. And I noticed those other prices while there. Thanks for the laughs, Ford.
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01-15-2014, 07:59 PM
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Looks like the 2015 model (US) will have a 6 speed and two doors, both new for the US models. With 45 highway compared to a VX at 50 highway (current EPA ratings), I'll be watching for them to come to my local salvage auction. Maybe I can get one like my 2011 Fiesta that had no frame, glass, or interior damage, no air bags deployed.
Since I have averaged just over 45 MPG (49.5 today (indicated) taking the wife to a DRs appt) with a 38 highway rating for mine, it should be reasonsble to assume (begins with a$$), I should be able to pull 53-55 combined with the 1.0 ecoboost engine, maybe even higher on 55 MPH country road trips.
Or I get my 3 wheeler done and average over 100 MPG.
Dump the bikes and the truck, sell the 2011 Fiesta and get a small trailer.
Interesting times
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02-24-2014, 12:12 PM
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Fiesta 1.6L still cheaper to run?
A Cars.com running costs study offers up a factoid about the Fiesta 1.0t:
The $2,475 price premium over the base 1.6L Fiesta is not recovered in 8 years of driving @ $3.30/gal and 15k mi./yr
Top 10 Cheapest New Cars You Can Buy - KickingTires
In the same study they also point out that even the $1k premium for the CVT in the Mirage doesn't pay for itself over the officially thirstier 5-speed manual in 8 years.
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