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Old 05-12-2015, 07:59 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Robocars=a hackers dream come true!!!

That would be my biggest concern.

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Old 05-12-2015, 12:59 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Pros of robot cars
First gen won’t be capable most of these thing but you have to start somewhere.
End of speeding tickets – for everyone
Elderly night time driving – currently seeing this with my parents
End of drunk driving, falling asleep, distracted driving
No more parking hassles – valet everywhere you go
Sleeping on long trips
Women will look more attractive – easier to put makeup on in the car
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Old 05-12-2015, 01:09 PM   #13 (permalink)
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And you can't think of a single drawback... Amazing, or stupid.

What do you mean "you have to start somewhere"? People fall when they ride bikes, better get on that (and make sure we track their every movement in the process)!!!

Tell me who pays when these things screw up? Will you be arguing with a machine in court if you can't afford one? Will you have to crush your car and not drive? I can't believe there are folks so eager to give up their autonomy.
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Just because they CAN drive themselves doesn't mean they have to drive themselves all the time. They're already here. The functionality will continue improving gradually as time goes on.


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Robocars=a hackers dream come true!!!

That would be my biggest concern.

I agree, if it's done improperly. If done with open source, open standards that anyone can critique, it could be done very securely. (Like Linux and FreeBSD) And if a security issue did come up, a patch/upgrade could fix it. Unfortunately the auto industry doesn't seem to like open standards.
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First let me say - I’m Amazing

Tell me who pays when these things screw up? A. The party at fault pays.

Will you be arguing with a machine in court if you can't afford one? A. Yes, the same way you argue with: red light cameras, police radars, surveillance video and eyewitness testimony.

Will you have to crush your car and not drive? A. No you will not have to crush your car. Weak drivers are allowed to drive on the roads, I don’t see why that would not continue into the future.
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The slow boil starts with semi-autonomous

Toyota, Audi, Mercedes Benz, GM, Nissan, Volvo and Tesla will have their semi-autonomous driving features (super-cruise, cooperative-adaptive control & navigation, lane tracing, pilot-assist, anti-dozing alarms, chauffeur-assistance, etc) available soon. They are currently testing and driving are all over California roads right now...

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And causing accidents, and driving slowly, and you guys are idiots. My only guess is that you own stock, and that is the ONLY reason you think it is amazing. It is a load of crap.
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I have been driving for 40 years and been a technician the same time. I have a degree in industrial robotics. I have come to the conclusion that there are benefits to automation and there are limitations. One should never let the machine do your thinking for you. Its job is to handle routine repetitive tasks. Automated systems will always require some level of supervision in the form of an operator and a systems controller. Sensors will give us much more information and it will be processed rapidly. We will still have to deal with unexpected conditions and failures. Measuring the traction in various snow or rain conditions will not be easy. Predicting the path of an animal in the road would be only a statistical best guess. Computer systems are vulnerable to attack and sensors can be negated so in the end there are limits of reliability. Trust but verify.
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And causing accidents, and driving slowly, and you guys are idiots. My only guess is that you own stock, and that is the ONLY reason you think it is amazing. It is a load of crap.
I guess all the car companies creating the semi-autonomous systems are idiots too. It looks like they work pretty well from the test videos I see and cars that are currently on the road. A lot of drivers are really crappy drivers and systems like these would help a lot. Either that or actually requiring people to learn to drive before they get in a vehicle, but that doesn't seem like it will happen.

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