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Old 05-12-2015, 02:25 PM   #21 (permalink)
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The challenge

Every manufacturer are creating their own proprietary systems so it is the wild wild west of the 'autonomous auto era'. The incremental creep of active-assistance driving will give way to total autonomous driving. For manufacturers it is NOT a real technology challenge but the 'herding' or standardization of these systems. The main reason are for LEGAL grounds. Congress and lawyers will have a boom. Traffic violations/insurance liabilities from all or any instances of tech failures, accidents and injuries/deaths in these vehicles. These have to be legislatively bullet-proof and fairly adjudicated before any large public acceptance. DOT AND FCC might be involved by requiring self-driving car-to-self-driving car standardized communications for safety and cooperative existence. Add to that traffic mix and complication of the last-hold-out real drivers and our 'off grid' old muscle cars. (they might still make it mandatory to have a smart device or smart phone, to identify our location & disposition in 'the system')

The last hurdle is the psychological jump by drivers/passengers to accept the ride of an autonomous vehicle.


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Old 05-12-2015, 02:28 PM   #22 (permalink)
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too lazy to walk, too lazy to ride a bike, now too lazy to drive.

NOBODY thought robo-cop red light cameras were a good idea. "whoever is at fault" is the biggest cop-out ever.

As long as they are being promoted, I'll be pointing out how fantastically idiotic it is. I don't care how much google/apple/whatever stock you own, it has ruined your brain and common sense.

Why do you want google to track your every move? What possible rationalle can you fabricate for that? There is none.

You have no clue as to the complexities in driving, so maybe you should be taking those lessons. Or at least one in programming, so you know how utterly rediculous all these claims are.

You might as well put on the goggles or plug back into the matrix now, without pushing all this crap. Your lineage is done.

Bullcrap safety claims, from bullcrap companies. You better believe "acceptable losses" has been discussed, and this whole thing has been swiftboated by corrupt/naive politicians.

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you can't mod it, you can't drive it without assuming liability. Craptons of unfounded claims. This isn't ecomodding related in the slightest, but could fit nicely in the unicorn corral.

Yah, tinfoil hats, that's really addresses the issues... You are down with automated private police state.
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There are fifty autonomous/self-driving cars driving around California roads and highways, four have gotten into accidents since September after getting their permits. Three were from Google Lexus SUVs and one from Delphi Audi. They must have an observer/driver behind the steering wheel at all times. They have reported that they were minor fender benders and more importantly, none of their cars were at fault!

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The day that report came out, Google disclosed that it is actually 11 accidents and the AP story has been updated...

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Driver assist features do exist, unlike unicorns. There are self parking cars. There are cars with lane keeping assist. The assist features don't affect the ability to eco-mod the car in any way. Eventually having all traffic flow better because erratic people aren't controlling their cars will definitely affect the MPG's. Also features like cars being able to join up in a "train" configuration will definitely improve mpg.
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11 crashes in 1.7 million miles of driving, and all the reported accidents were the fault of other dumbass drivers... rear ending, running a stop sign, etc. They should be more clear to point out how ****ty people really drive and how well the autonomous cars from google have handled that.
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show me the independantly verified data, not the marketing hype.

How did they determine fault? If it is typical corpslease it only means they were not convicted. See also "who's fault is it". If it was driving irratically...

The records were concealed, with as much gusto as the road tests were approved.

Do you even know how to think critically? Or do you think google is going to do anything but blame you with all the data they collect (that you can't get to) if you touch the wheel or not.

Why would anyone want to give them money?
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Old 05-12-2015, 03:42 PM   #29 (permalink)
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You seem to think google has a monopoly on this market. All car manufacturers are working one these types of systems/cars. Google was just the first to do it on such a large scale.
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In two recent incidences; gas pedals getting stuck and faulty ignition switches.
Both represent two extremes of self driving cars, going too fast and safety equipment not functioning. These are not new concerns.
You can't solve a case before it happens.

Anyone who is impaired anytime during their life could benefit from self driving cars, elderly, drunk, disabled, blind, sleep deprived. If you're not on this list you're not livin'.

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