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Old 07-15-2016, 05:54 PM   #11 (permalink)
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It's the antithesis of remote start systems which promote many, many hours of quality idling time and evidently people just love the **** outta that.

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My in-laws use remote-start on their Prius all the time; it runs for a few minutes, then the engine shuts off and it sits there draining the battery for a while.
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It's the antithesis of remote start systems which promote many, many hours of quality idling time and evidently people just love the **** outta that.
There's an awesome observation right there!

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Old 07-15-2016, 08:47 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I believe being able to safely control a vehicle with the engine cut off should be part of the driving test.
Auto start/stop is new and the vehicle turning off all by its self is scary to ignorant people. So the average and below average American consumer is afraid of what they don't understand.
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On another note I'm reminded of all the "Oh my god a seat belt. LET ME JUST CUT IT OFF WITH A RAZOR TO FIX IT AND GET IMPALED ON THE STEERING COLUMN!" crap in about 1970.*

*I wasn't born for over 20 years after that, I've only read accounts of this.
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I've had experience with start/stop technology on Priuses, a VW Golf and a Volvo V40. I hate the systems! Mostly because they're automated and I know better than a computer when to shut off or start an engine.
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I believe being able to safely control a vehicle with the engine cut off should be part of the driving test.
Believe it or not, that was part of the curriculum when I was an instructor. The student had to be able to restart an auto trans car in motion. Depending on how far along they were, I might randomly "stall" the car on them after that.

It wasn't on the government test though.
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I've had experience with start/stop technology on Priuses, a VW Golf and a Volvo V40. I hate the systems! Mostly because they're automated and I know better than a computer when to shut off or start an engine.
I love the idea of auto stop, but you remind me that I had an amusing experience next to a Mercedes a few weeks ago. Waiting at a light in my civic with the engine off, a white new or nearly new Mercedes next to me was also off. But the driver creeped forward a few inches maybe 4 or even 5 times in anticipation of the light changing. Each time he moved, the engine turn on and then off. Meanwhile I sat there, the cyborg ecu, shut down and waiting for the light to actually turn green.

The driver is the most important engine control unit.
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Er, are there no Mercs or BMWs or Porsches where you live? All of them have been equipped with start-stop for at least a few years.
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None where I live, except for maybe a doctor or executive passing through. Otherwise it's all Suburbans, Silverados, and Cadillacs.

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