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Old 03-15-2019, 11:12 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Deppending of the position you are and the position of the shooter, it can be a suicide. If you are in front of hin and not very near, he can shoot you before your hands reach hin. If you are by his side and near hin, you have a chance if you are good and know tactics of fight.
It's also depends of how strong you are and how strong is the shooter.

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Most of these shooters aren't tactically trained. I don't know what the odds are of someone accurately shooting a moving target is with regards to stopping them immediately, but it's probably fairly low. Have you ever seen the video of a guy shooting his lawyer outside the courthouse at an arm's length distance? He emptied the whole gun and the guy lived.

I'll take my chances even if the odds are poor. When you take no action, the Twin Towers crumble to the ground. When you take action, the bad guys plans get ruined (UA flight 93)

One time I ran with the intention of tackling a man with an axe. It was 3am and he was hacking at a car. A moment before tackling I recognized him. He had accidentally locked his keys in the trunk of his car and thought opening the trunk with an axe was a good idea. I probably should have called the police instead, but he didn't see me and I had the element of surprise on my side.

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Deppending of the position you are and the position of the shooter, it can be a suicide.
Which is why I called it an hypothetical. Throw something to make a noise off to one side before you charge.

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I wouldn't want to see the video (now being suppressed) of the shooting in New Zealand, but would look at a chart like football coaches use


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Investigation pointed a third person, suspect of be involved, in planning of the shooting.

But our police is so "smart" that they took the guy for interrogation, asked hin the questions, let he go away, and just after that they checked his home and found proofs he was very involved.

And today in a mosque in New Zealand, 49 people was murdered.

Human nature...
That's why I hope warp drive don't became reality in this era, since the universe don't deserve such "flying snakes" around.
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It's common practice in the US to not be under arrest until there is evidence. What would have happened here is an officer(s) would interrogate the suspect while other officers obtain a search warrant from a judge. The search would be conducted while the suspect was being questioned. If the suspect refused to cooperate, they would be arrested on suspicion of some minor crime. When more evidence is found, the major crimes would be charged.

Was the motivation behind the killings revealed?

I've got a friend in NZ right now. I'll have to see what they know.
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I think they are not sure.
A forensic psychiatrist told that can be sure mental illness, but he failed to describe mental illness. Today almost nobody it's free from psychologic problems according some fields of modern psychology. Mental illness can go from a slight fobia to something, some repetitive gesture like light obssessive compulsion, and go to things like psychosis.
He pointed that the midia and politic parties blaming video games and internet are pointless, since according hin the shooter born with amental illness. The seconbd shooter was pointed by hin as someone with a weak mind, following the dominant first shooter.

Personally I think the shooter can be bipolar, psychotic, psychopath, borderline... Mental illness from many types, but something can had target hate on hin to reach the point of such violence. The social hate in social networks today can had some influence.
Of course normal people would not to such thing, even with a lot og violent games and hate groups on web. But we must think about the danger of such culture for people with some mental illness. And there are a lot, really a lot people with mental illnes, in degree of concern, in society.
I think people who kill a wife/husband for jealousy aree in similar category.

Let's remamber that in psychiatry they consider normal people who do not steal, who do not kill, who do not lie without good reason, who don't do a lot of things. Other scientists consider that if we take a lot of things we will end in a situation that almost noone is normal.

I don't know... the forensic psychiatrist sounded somewhat arrogant. Many peolle don't do crazy things for be afraid of get jail, and not because they are ok.

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I think they are not sure.
My understanding is they have three in custody and a published manifesto. Don't expect any thing to come out of that, the NZ Prime Minister is using this to precipitate a gun ban. Similar to the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arthur_massacre_(Australia) where they lost 38.

NZ has also blocked 4chan and 8chan, and that has serious implications.
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OOPS... I was refering to the brazilian school shooting and not the Nerw Zealand shooting.

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