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Old 01-11-2019, 10:55 AM   #11 (permalink)
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spamming the shifter

great description of exactly what I was doing.



I didn't notice the trans was particularly slow to respond, though I did confuse it enough to make it lurch once or twice by hitting upshift just after getting moving off in 1st. I think it went 1-2-1 within a couple of seconds.


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comfortable car, though

I said the same thing to Tim about it. Relatively quiet, compliant ride, substantial feeling. And no squeaks or rattles despite 200k km / 120k miles on it.

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Old 01-11-2019, 03:30 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I had a chance to drive a 1st gen., pre-update Cruze this week (first time in a Cruze for me).

6-speed, conventional torque converter automatic with a manual mode like the Audi & Jeep CVT's.

Not surprisingly, like the CVT's, the default programming upshifts a lot later than you can make it shift manually. Though I can't count how many times the car told me "SHIFT DENIED" when I asked for an early upshift. Funny.

The other interesting eco-driving transmission factoid: you can force the car to start off in 2nd gear by requesting an upshift when stopped.
My ex had one of those, with the 1.4T and the 6T45 you drove, I remember it not allowing 6th before like 37mph... it would deliver good mileage in 6th if you kept it to like 45-50mph and kept it out of boost...

What I didnít like is the gearing... when accelerating at WOT it would shift three times by the time it got to 60... engine had a really narrow power band, you had to really work the shifter to keep it happy, it had lots of turbo lag below 3500, and fell on its face above 5500... they say that a ZZP tune helps lots with the power curve, but I know it also voids the warranty on a car that still had one left...
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Old 01-11-2019, 03:40 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I could get it into 6th around 50 km/h = 30 mph. But I'm pretty sure this was the 1.8 -- different programming?
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It could be different programming or I could just be remembering 37 and not 31... it’s been a few years ago that my ex had her Cruze... how was it with the 1.8? Slow as crap? I think the Cruze weighs 3100-ish and the 1.8 is rated at 138/125?
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Old 01-12-2019, 05:23 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Honestly, I'm not the person to be asking about whether a car is 'slow' or not. Remember I drive a 50 hp car with extra tall gearing, and I think it's fast enough! The 78 hp Mirage I tested felt extravagant.

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