07-03-2024, 05:24 PM
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Maybe an updated model, as long as it's also supplied to other markets like it's currently done with the Mirage made mostly in Thailand for export (and a limited production in the Philippines for the local market), would still be quite reasonable to keep some US-spec model available. Otherwise we'll never know if the real problem is lack of an actual demand for such cars there or lack of supply as it's easier for automakers to turn everything into some sort of fake SUV because of American regulations favoring them. Not to mention some other markets, even though each one with a lower sales volume than the United States, in the end may account for enough sales to sustain the demand for US-spec versions in countries where it's quite common to find US-spec models too.
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The problem is that the USA is the 2nd largest market for the Mirage and it will need changes to continue to sell in the USA. It will need a new engine to meet upcoming emission standards and it will need a big upgrade to the automatic emergency braking system.
If you combine all the European countries the EU is the second highest market but the Mirage is likely dead there too. Mitsubishi would need to make it a hybrid to have any hope of avoiding fuel economy fines in both the USA and EU.
Even then total global Mirage sales are only 75,000 per year - how much money do you spend updating a model this that poor of sales?
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IIRC the Bronco arrived first in my country, and I still see a larger amount of it than the Maverick. Maybe the Ranger here having only Diesel engines may have something to do with it, as there would be a lower demand for a gasser truck...
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In the USA it is about a 40/60 split between the Bronco Sport and the Maverick.
In Brazil you did get the Bronco Sport a year earlier than the Maverick so that might explain seeing a few more Broncos. Since the Maverick has been offered it has outsold the Sport. Total sales in Brazil: Maverick 4,018 / Bronco Sport: 4,238.
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07-03-2024, 06:31 PM
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07-03-2024, 06:40 PM
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... and the new one has twice the power and gets better MPG.
I just pulled a tandem axle trailer with 2 ATVs last weekend with a Chevy Colorado, and it was getting 20 MPG, which is better than the 2003 S-10 it was meant to replace.
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07-03-2024, 07:33 PM
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... and the new one has twice the power and gets better MPG.
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And statistically kills twice as many pedestrians. 
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07-03-2024, 07:43 PM
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Except that aren't the same model. The new truck is a quad cab Silverado HD 4x4 while the old is a base model regular cab that is likely a 2wd. Then they shoot it angled so the new truck is closer so it appears larger.
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07-03-2024, 09:24 PM
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I bet the old one has a longer bed than the new one.
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07-04-2024, 04:06 PM
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I bet the old one has a longer bed than the new one.
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The one picture - yes. However, you can still buy a 2024 Silverado with an 8 foot bed like the 1990's model pictured. Regular Cab, Double Cab, and Crew Cab. (Actually 98 inches or 8.2 foot bed)
You just need to shop the Chevrolet Commercial page.
https://www.chevrolet.com/commercial
(You can also buy it as a Chassis Cab and put on a flat bed or utility body for those that are doing actual work.)
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07-14-2024, 01:25 AM
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Even though the C/K GMT400 didn't differ its appearance too much from the 1500 to the 2500 or 3500, in contrast to the Silverado which got different bodystyles for the 1500 and the bigger models, a modern 1500 still ends up being larger than a GMT400, even if such GMT400 is a 2500. In countries such as Brazil where the GVWR limit for a car driver license is stricter, it became a major PITA when Ford switched from the Aeronose to the early Super Duty, having to rate the F-250 with a lower payload than the F-1000 (basically a regional variation of the F-250 which looked like a F-150 with its short bed).
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If you combine all the European countries the EU is the second highest market but the Mirage is likely dead there too. Mitsubishi would need to make it a hybrid to have any hope of avoiding fuel economy fines in both the USA and EU.
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A rebadged Renault Clio will be the replacement for the Euro-spec Mirage.
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