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Old 11-29-2010, 12:33 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 11-29-2010, 12:53 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I look forward to the start of each winter for the annual YouTube "snowy/icy road" video extravaganza!

Here's the best one so far...

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Old 11-29-2010, 01:04 PM   #13 (permalink)
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You'd think people in Northern climes would know that winter brings snowy, icy, slippery roads. Nope. They need the annual trip into the ditch or collision to bring it all back. You wouldn't believe all the whiners that blame slipperyness on the Dept of Transportation. They expect the road to be like it is on a clear, dry, August day, all year around. This is how we end up with oversalted roads and rotted out vehicles.
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Old 11-29-2010, 01:21 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Yeah, it took me 4.5 hours to drive 15 miles last Monday night (the night of the youtube clip above).

But the good news is, my snow tires don't hurt my MPG. Got a record tank on a weekend trip to Portland - 36.1. Well, more like 35, the odometer reads 3% high, but that's the same as my summer tires so I'm not counting it.
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Old 11-29-2010, 01:22 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Ya'll would enjoy driving in Arkansas. the road department doesn't believe in putting down salt, and instead prefer gravel. And they only scrape the main roads, the back roads and lesser highways they only knock off all but the last inch or so, packing that last inch into a 1/4" of ice........
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Old 11-29-2010, 01:26 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I would love that- I'd rather chance a dent than the certainty of total rust destruction.
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I'm with Frank on that one. I'd much rather drive on slick roads and take some extra time than drive myself insane trying to keep a car from rotting.
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Old 11-29-2010, 02:50 PM   #18 (permalink)
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You'd think people in Northern climes would know that winter brings snowy, icy, slippery roads. Nope. They need the annual trip into the ditch or collision to bring it all back. You wouldn't believe all the whiners that blame slipperyness on the Dept of Transportation. They expect the road to be like it is on a clear, dry, August day, all year around. This is how we end up with oversalted roads and rotted out vehicles.
F*** salt! F*** people who think salt will solve all their winter problems! It's weird how in a country where winter is much longer than summer you'd have so many drivers who either panic and end up on someone's bumper when they see the first snow flake, or they start to fool around and end up in a ditch. Geez, it's winter, get used to it!

We got 15-20cm of snow in 12 hours today, with at least as much forecasted for the night and tomorrow. This evening was bad. Traffic jams and drivers complaining about "not enough salt", "we pay taxes", etc. The number of cars in Warsaw increases by 5-10% each year, but the number of idjots at least doubles!

As of today you can get a 40€ fine in Germany for not having winter tires when driving in snow or freezing rain.

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I look forward to the start of each winter for the annual YouTube "snowy/icy road" video extravaganza!

Here's the best one so far...
Two things struck me in that video:
  1. It seems that the bus driver (around 3:20) knew what to do when sliding (turned the front wheels into the slide),
  2. Some drivers prefer to drive onto a sidewalk with pedestrians (around 2:01), rather than to hit another car. Hitting something soft won't leave a dent, hopefully.

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