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Old 07-06-2009, 09:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Stalled while Neutral Coasting

Im not too familiar with EOC

But I was EOnC (Engine On Coasting) down the hill when the engine shut off on me

It happened at the end during a turn when I was going maybe 10 mph or so

I didnt know what to do. So I coasted to a stop and then started the car again.
Luckily only one slow driver was behind me and he went around when I flashed the hazards.



Is this different than EOC?

Is there a way to restart while still in motion.

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Your Tracker should restart while in motion, if you're in neutral. (You were already in N, right?) Not strictly necessary to come to a stop first. Just turn the key.

I used to teach "rolling re-starts" to new drivers as part of a defensive driving curriculum (driving instructor as a part time job when I was going to university). We would intro the concept, explain how a stalled engine affected steering & brakes, and how to bop the gear selector to N to attempt a re-start if it was safe. Then try it out on a quiet road (I'd reach over and key off / on to kill the engine).
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Yeah I was in neutral

it cuts off like that sometimes when I coast slow in neutral

Ill just restart
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You should find out why it's stalling. Does the check engine light come on when this happens?
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My check engine light is always on, been like that for years
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Get the codes read.

Also, is your fuel level low when it stalls out? 92-93 Bonnevilles stalled when going around sharp corners when the fuel level was low.
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I know the codes (but not offhand), might be egr but thats common with my car

Its not fuel level as Im almost always at least half tank
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Yeah, an EGR problem can cause stalling at idle.

EonC is just the same as idling while rolling.

Get it fixed! A check engine light can cause the ECU to employ a backup fuel map that is richer, uneconomical, and unlikely to stall. I know my Subaru loves to idle high when it's really cold out, or when the CEL is on.
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Yeah, an EGR problem can cause stalling at idle.

EonC is just the same as idling while rolling.

Get it fixed! A check engine light can cause the ECU to employ a backup fuel map that is richer, uneconomical, and unlikely to stall. I know my Subaru loves to idle high when it's really cold out, or when the CEL is on.

I know how to fix but I have to remove a lot just to get to it.
If I went to a shop they would probably charge a couple 100

Ill probably leave it.




Ive actually done it a couple more times.
When Im going super slow, ill shift to neutral and itll cut off
Its almost like an automatic EOC.
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Good advice on the 'rolling restarts' Metro. I use that in my daily driving, and I must say it's a pretty nice little boost. I usually will try to time lights so I can EoC up to them, and then restart the car when I need to start accelerating again.

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