04-05-2016, 01:00 PM
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1. Tall people don't belong in the back seats
2. Tesla could have raised the roofline at the expense of aerodynamic efficiency to increase headroom.
3. The glass could have been in sections, with cross-support between the glass sections.
A single pane of glass isn't necessary, as shown by every car ever made.
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04-05-2016, 02:16 PM
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When your whole family is tall, you need to have a roomy backseat.
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04-05-2016, 03:17 PM
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Short people with Napoleon complexes like to call shotgun. Sure, I could pick them up and move them out of my way, but then they might bite my ankles.
Well, not in my combat boots.
Note to self: Always wear combat boots around short people.
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04-05-2016, 09:39 PM
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Short people like the boots too, for the added height as well as the clomping sounds that they think all big people make.
FWIW, it's not because of their Napoleon complexes, it's about visibility. They call shotgun because they can't see over the seatbacks or the steering wheel.
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04-06-2016, 01:12 AM
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Randy Newman anyone?
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04-06-2016, 09:04 AM
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Engineer: Can't we just have sliding doors on the Model X? You realise how costly those falcon doors will be in recalls and repairs? I mean, really?
Musk: (pulls face)
Engineer: Oh! Hold that pose, Mr Musk! I just got an idea for the front end of the Model 3!
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04-06-2016, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by NeilBlanchard
The glass roof increases the rear seat headroom.
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How? Assuming the same exterior shape is kept, a metal or composite roof of the same strength/stiffness can be thinner than a glass one (lighter, too). It can also have padding, so that if you do bump your head (e.g. on a rough road), it won't hurt as much. The padding also acts as insulation, keeping down heating/cooling costs (which is much more important to EVs than IC, where heat is free), and noise levels.
As for tall people in the back seat, what proportion of all trips have people in the back seat?
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04-06-2016, 04:26 PM
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No matter what, I think it looks stunningly good.
I keep trying to compare it to other cars that look like it, but when I put them side by side they fade in comparison - especially when you stay in the vicinity of the price range.
I'd be prepared to forgive it a handful of vices just for its looks.
The fake grill, yeah. Lowering the lip makes it look a bit like a Porsche. In this case that feels like it spoils it.
There may be a technical reason for the high edge, like pedestrian collision safety.
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04-07-2016, 05:20 AM
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All I see is grill-less Mazda 3 in it, can't see what all the fuss is about.
Any number of sports cars pass crash regs without the need for that weird lip.
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04-07-2016, 05:39 AM
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Mazda 3 sedan:
Tesla Model 3:
There are similarities, but I know which one I prefer.
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