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Old 03-09-2019, 05:31 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Remember the Semi reveal? It had a surprise (the Roadster V2).

I expect something extra coming with the Model Y reveal too.
Maybe this?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-08/tesla-bull-left-shares-photo-of-what-he-says-is-the-new-model-s


EDIT This is branded a '2022 Model S'. More pics here: https://www.topspeed.com/cars/tesla/...-ar182122.html

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Old 03-09-2019, 07:57 AM   #12 (permalink)
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https://www.cdrinfo.com/d7/content/tesla-releases-new-model-y-teaser

It has mirrors now, and the headlights do look like the Model 3.

In fact nothing looks dissimilar from the Model 3.
Did they just raise the suspension and called it a day?
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Old 03-09-2019, 11:05 AM   #13 (permalink)
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In fact nothing looks dissimilar from the Model 3.
Did they just raise the suspension and called it a day?
I hope so, the Model 3 is a fine looking car, and is fairly aerodynamic.
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For only $1000 extra, you can get body color matched mirrors.

Speaking of mirrors, it would be nice if Musk pushed state and federal laws to allow cameras instead of mirrors. Eliminating them will go a long way towards improving the range of these EVs.
I believe that Tesla has been petitioning the DOT since before they ever went into production,to allow 'camera' systems,because of the associated drag reduction which would be realized.About Cd 0.01.
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I hope so, the Model 3 is a fine looking car, and is fairly aerodynamic.
While not the lowest drag car ever offered for lease in North America (Cd 0.197 GM EV1),at Cd 0.23,the Model 3 is the lowest drag car ever offered for sale.
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Because the Volkswagen XL1 was only available in Europe...
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The XL1 has a curb weight of 795 kg (1,753 lb), and a drag coefficient of Cd=0.186 (a similar drag coefficient to the General Motors EV1 electric car).
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Tesla teases 'Nice Try'

https://mobilesyrup.com/2019/03/09/t...ssage-model-y/

Enhancing the contrast on the shady picture reveals a secret message!
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Because the Volkswagen XL1 was only available in Europe...
You can buy a garage full of Model 3s and a lot of electricity before you come close to paying for one of those.
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While not the lowest drag car ever offered for lease in North America (Cd 0.197 GM EV1),at Cd 0.23,the Model 3 is the lowest drag car ever offered for sale.
Lowest drag coefficient ever offered for sale in North America, not lowest drag. If I'm not mistaken, that honor still belongs to the original Honda Insight by virtue of its small cross-sectional area (it's a full 3" shorter and 7" narrower than the Model 3).

ETA: I remembered, and double-checked just now, that Tesla now advertises CD .23 for the Model S as well, while the Model X has been bumped up to CD .25 with the fixed spoiler.
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You can buy a garage full of Model 3s and a lot of electricity before you come close to paying for one of those.
What about one top spec Model 3, a PowerWall 2, an oversized solar roof and home improvements (isolation, heat pump).
For the price of one XL1 you could be a net supplier of energy and have a faster car.

Makes you wonder what VW was trying to achieve with the XL1...
Of course, if mass produced the price would have come down. But it would never be a mainstream car. So it wasn't viable.

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