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Old 09-01-2019, 09:22 PM   #11 (permalink)
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The guy got terminated from an oil service trucking employment. He shot rabbits from his 2nd story lookout window with rifle , neighbors complain to police that could not find him. He killed a postal worker while fleeing police.

The UK seems to be a much safer place to live …..although those here in the USA would complain about 2nd amend rights. The USA is awash in legal and illegal firearms

Two for Two
Two Texas shootings
Two white males from divorce family

Anyone see a pattern yet
Sandy hook shooting young white male from divorce family

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Of the last 36 mass shootings, 34 of the 36 shooters were Negro.

The pattern is to demonize American men. The only group that pays its own way in this society.

All minority, immigrant and females consume more than they pay

In the Permian you no longer see American men driving trucks. What should be (used to be) good paying oilfield work. The rates are so low that only those subsidized by American men can make it work. Pawn off their children and other responsibilities to him, the taxpayer.

You wouldn’t believe the number of these drivers who haven’t got the barest command of English. One wonders, HOW is that possible given they ostensibly grew up here. Ha!

My guess about the oilfield is that they’ve been given a more-or-less guarantee against bankruptcy. None have made a profit. Most services they need are contracted out. And those companies MUST have cheapest overhead to stay afloat.

Go into the McDonalds in Odessa. The girl behind the counter speaks no English. Instead, you must point at a menu on the counter.

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Old 09-03-2019, 03:29 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Of the last 36 mass shootings, 34 of the 36 shooters were Negro.
Do you have a source for that? I did a search and did not find anything by a source with which I am familiar.

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A lot depends on your definition of "mass shooting". Some counts use 3 or 4 death/injuries, most are not random shooting it a public place.

"There is no broadly accepted definition of a mass shooting. Gun Violence Archive defines a mass shooting as a single incident in which four or more people, not including the shooter, are "shot and/or killed" at "the same general time and location."

Counting the 14 yo that just killed his whole family, or the criminal resident that killed a woman and her 2 kids in their home a few months ago IMO doesn't fit a "Mass Shooting" but is counted.
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I understand that every country counts violence differently, so you cannot really compare.

I believe that we have discussed that there is not one consistent definition for black rifles.

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Some scientists especulate afro descendents have a higher incidence, in their population, for genes linked to violence, liker robbery, murder, rape. This is not the same as tell negros are bandids, but just that there are bad genes for diseases, for characteristics, and the incidence of such variables genes are not the same among all ethinic groups. There are good and bad people in all ethinic groups, and smart and dumb people in all ethinic groups. But the incidence of related genes varies...

We can't use the genetic theory for violence and forgot the social and cultural factors (and also historic), since it would be label somehow, or would help to promote labeling of people of some ethinic group, by racist organizations. So it's a very sensible thematic, and dangereous as could be use as a tool for create lies.

Something similar probably exists for inteligence, as the IQ graphics demonstrate clearly differences beteween white, blacks, hispanic, japaneses and jews. Even when take people adopted by wealth couples and created and send to goods schools, the score don't change enough.

Natural sellection, while some early societies was developing, helped that people with better skills, for math, memory, write, social habilities, get in general better life and could have more children than people with genes not so good.
The agriculture itself, developed earlier in european civilization, worked better for people with better social behavior (in general with more social genes), along many generations, and probably enhanced the genetic incidence for genes for better socialization. While in cultures where haunting was more often than agriculture, social bahavior didn't get much required, since someone could steal the prey of other hunter.

Jews got advantage from the suffering they endured. In old times they suffered a lot of prejudice, and couldn't own property but was alloweed to aloan money. Jews with high IQ had better chance of survive or could have more kids or more kids of them would survive, if they have more mney. So the jews good in skill to business, math and verbal comunication, got advantage over jews with less skills, and many skills are connected to genes. So these jews could feed better their kids, pay doctor, pay for coal to warm the home in winter, pay for amah (wet nurse).

If the genes plays a considerable role for some ethinic groups, the leftwing politic of "Everyone is Equal and can Have Equal Results if Had Equal Oportunits", it's very wrong. Maybe they learn it in the worse when, when their politics failed and academic groups became weaker with the ratial quotas.
Finland and other countries acceping imigrants will probably have, in near future, a significative reduction of IQ in the population and a increase in violence.

Before someone call me a racist, I live in a country with high violence, and with a lot of missigenation. So skin color here it's not necessarily a european thing, in case of people that look white.

Maybe the better way to help black populations would be insentives to they do not have children early a and/or single, and latter allow them a free option to use sémen banks, to choose sémen from people (probably blacks they will prefer) with clean record and high IQ.

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Uhnnn... immigration... It's a complex subject...

The main problem it's that there is no filtering to the kind of people who immigrate. There are good and bad people, and the bad portion must be forbidden.
Other aspet is that the USA economy took many immigrants because americans don't want to work in many kinds of jobs. There is also the devaluatin of some jobs, since immigrants would accept lower salary.

But let's supose you meat a immigrant, a nice person, clean record, hard working, making effort to improve his english and following the rules&laws. Would you still dislike hin?

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Of the last 36 mass shootings, 34 of the 36 shooters were Negro.

The pattern is to demonize American men. The only group that pays its own way in this society.

All minority, immigrant and females consume more than they pay

In the Permian you no longer see American men driving trucks. What should be (used to be) good paying oilfield work. The rates are so low that only those subsidized by American men can make it work. Pawn off their children and other responsibilities to him, the taxpayer.

You wouldn’t believe the number of these drivers who haven’t got the barest command of English. One wonders, HOW is that possible given they ostensibly grew up here. Ha!

My guess about the oilfield is that they’ve been given a more-or-less guarantee against bankruptcy. None have made a profit. Most services they need are contracted out. And those companies MUST have cheapest overhead to stay afloat.

Go into the McDonalds in Odessa. The girl behind the counter speaks no English. Instead, you must point at a menu on the counter.

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But let's supose you meat a immigrant, a nice person, clean record, hard working, making effort to improve his english and following the rules&laws. Would you still dislike hin?
Put them through a wood chipper?

Can you like individual people and still oppose mass movements of them?
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The color of one's skin is of no interest to me with regards to any story that could be told. I'm also opposed to using the adjective "African American" unless we're talking about someone who was born in Africa and gained American citizenship. It doesn't describe skin color because ~10% of Africans are white. My preference when referring to someone is by their name, but if all I had to go on was skin color, I'd simply say black. BTW- my grandmother was from Japan. I'm not Asian-American. I am native American (born in the Americas) or a US citizen.

The strongest link to most of the negative outcomes for a person is single parent households. We celebrate single parents as heros while their descendants drop out of school, become dependents (on society), or worse, predators. I don't mean to vilify single parents, and there are many who do a wonderful job raising their children, but we certainly should not be encouraging this outcome; not culturally, and not with government programs.

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People would still run away. Unles they were close target of a armed criminal, AND if they were not caught by surprise.
In real life a criminal approachs you already with his gun on hand, and you have no time to get your gun, unlock, point and use.

No ofense to USA people (and you north americans know I talk bad about my own country a lot). But USA people should learn with jananese people. Japanese kill thenselves and just it, when they are deep depressed or frustrated, instead of kill people around before suicide like some USA people do.
Japanese call it honor, while USA shooter suicides are just pathetic.
Japanese have the opposite problem of the US; overemphasis on the group. They address each other by their family name because the group identity is more important than their individuality. Culturally, the misfits internalize problems and choose suicide over murder. In the US, we overemphasize individuality, and thus when problems are encountered by an individual, they externalize it as a problem with others.

Somewhere between the 2 extremes there is appropriate balance of acknowledging individual agency and honoring and working toward the well-being of the group.

As far as citizens carrying firearms goes; as many people who are brave enough, disciplined, and trained to responsibly carry, should. How many crimes were prevented by a citizen carrying a gun? You don't always have to use it to deter crime, and we don't remember the stories where gunmen were stopped by armed citizens.

Police are almost never first responders; and usually last responders. We're primarily responsible for the health of our communities, with government agencies representing the very last and worst remedy to a problem that should never have gotten to that point.

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