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Old 06-28-2012, 09:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Tried EOC for the first time

So got off of work at a weird hour and decided to try to one up my P&G by trying out engine off coasting. Well my truck kicked on the traction control light and it didn't turn off for the entire trip. I'm pretty sure my traction control uses braking to obtain stability, and I don't know if the system keeps up with the light on.

Also my scangauge doesn't like to keep up with the trip recording. Is there anyway to remedy that?

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Old 06-28-2012, 11:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Also my scangauge doesn't like to keep up with the trip recording. Is there anyway to remedy that?
I don't have a remedy for the traction control issue.

As far as the trip recording, you should change the "engine type" setting from "gas" to "hybrid". This way the scan gauge won't restart when you key off the car.
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install a kill switch to turn off the fuel injectors. there is plenty of info if you do a search on how to do that
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install a kill switch to turn off the fuel injectors. there is plenty of info if you do a search on how to do that
I really need to do this with my '97 Ranger, for a few reasons.

First off, it pisses me off when it's time to EO when I'm listening to something on the radio. If I am careful enough, I can move the key far enough to loose ignition and keep radio power, but, it usually kicks out during re-ignition. Why the hell do all the domestic manufacturers put ACC over on the other side of the OFF position? The other reason is I get an assortment of buzzes and tones when I do it from time to time. Not sure what they mean other than they are the ECU saying WTF?

My wife's '09 Sonata doesn't seem to mind this procedure as there are no CELs or tones. There is one thing it does however. After an EOC, the cruise control generally will not re-engage. The only way to reset it is to stop and restart the engine the conventional way.
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install a kill switch to turn off the fuel injectors. there is plenty of info if you do a search on how to do that
But would that fix the traction control issue?
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Old 06-29-2012, 02:33 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Before I installed my injector kill switch, I ran a test by pulling the fuel injector fuse while the engine was running. I then confirmed that the engine started normally after reinstalling the fuse.
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install a kill switch to turn off the fuel injectors. there is plenty of info if you do a search on how to do that
That's easy to say, but sadly I'm going to have to disagree with you here. I have found very little info with easy to take steps to install an injector kill switch. Especially when there's no injector fuse.

No one has taken the time to do a good write up as far as I've seen.
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That's easy to say, but sadly I'm going to have to disagree with you here. I have found very little info with easy to take steps to install an injector kill switch. Especially when there's no injector fuse.

No one has taken the time to do a good write up as far as I've seen.
Go to the DIY / How-To section and scroll down a little. I looked only at the first page and saw two write-ups on Honda cars getting a kill switch. They are not likely to be exactly the same as your car, but they are still Honda cars. that means they probably have the same basic design. A side benefit to scrolling down and searching this way is finding items you never even thought about.

AFAIK, some injector fuses are located in a fuse block under the hood, not in the passenger compartment. Don't be discouraged.
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Go to the DIY / How-To section and scroll down a little. I looked only at the first page and saw two write-ups on Honda cars getting a kill switch. They are not likely to be exactly the same as your car, but they are still Honda cars. that means they probably have the same basic design. A side benefit to scrolling down and searching this way is finding items you never even thought about.

AFAIK, some injector fuses are located in a fuse block under the hood, not in the passenger compartment. Don't be discouraged.
I have the manual to my car which lists all the fuses, both under the hood and under the steering wheel.

In this guide: http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...elsol-709.html

It points to a pgm-fi fuse. I have no such fuse.

The only other write up I saw was for a metro after looking through the first three pages.

Just for the hell of it, I'm going to list my fuses here (only the ones that I don't know what they are/might be what I need to interrupt). If any of these sound like what I'm looking for, please let me know. I've scoured these forums and google and found no really good write up.

If someone can explain to me what I need to do or which fuse I need to use I will write a guide so idiot proof a monkey can do it.

Here's the list:

10A - IG METER
7.5A - HAC
15A - IGP
10A - LAF
7.5A - LAF
15A - DBW
15A - Ignition Coil
60A - EPS
50A - Ignition

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I used this guide to do the '97 Civic I had: http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...vic-12075.html That method puts the switch right at the pgm-fi relay. Could you post a picture/list of all the fuses and relays?

This is why there isn't a fool-proof guide, every car is different.

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