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Old 05-23-2015, 04:35 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Perhaps what W.S. said was awkwardly worded; possibly he meant you could add 6-8" of nosecone and only see the same benefit as 1" of boattail... which is darn near nothing.

You have already seen one of the difficulties of extended noses, that of hitting the ground.

Go ahead and test it, but I don't think you're going to like the added frontal area of that cone plus front wheel skirts. There are a few different movable front skirt concepts that don't add to frontal area that I think would have better chances of producing measurable gains.
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Old 05-24-2015, 04:16 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Perhaps what W.S. said was awkwardly worded; possibly he meant you could add 6-8" of nosecone and only see the same benefit as 1" of boattail... which is darn near nothing.

You have already seen one of the difficulties of extended noses, that of hitting the ground.

Go ahead and test it, but I don't think you're going to like the added frontal area of that cone plus front wheel skirts. There are a few different movable front skirt concepts that don't add to frontal area that I think would have better chances of producing measurable gains.
I'm not expecting to really see much (if any) gain from doing JUST this. This is more setting things up for the future plans I have I suppose. Also (and I think I'm actually crazy to say this) I think I like the way it looks
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Also (and I think I'm actually crazy to say this) I think I like the way it looks
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I am interested to see if there are any benefits to your nose. Your frontal area has not increased by much IMO. The flaring out for the fender skirts stick out like a sore thumb (no pun intended) in the front photo, but this may decrease the drag in that area. TEST IT PLEASE!

I am reminded of basjoos saying that he saw/felt a difference when he put his nose on the Aerocivic. You can't tell until you try. Good work.
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I would not drive with that front end on my car.

Imagine if you hit a raccoon or a person. They would be impaled on the dog cage, not to mention the dirty looks and people taking pictures of it
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Given the mass of the wire mesh, cardboard and duct tape, it would have some negligible value as a crumple zone. But hey, free racoon tail for the radio antenna.

I always imagine a spring-loaded bollard in the traffic lane. Imagination is funny that way.
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I am interested to see if there are any benefits to your nose. Your frontal area has not increased by much IMO. The flaring out for the fender skirts stick out like a sore thumb (no pun intended) in the front photo, but this may decrease the drag in that area. TEST IT PLEASE!

I am reminded of basjoos saying that he saw/felt a difference when he put his nose on the Aerocivic. You can't tell until you try. Good work.
It's hard to say without being able to ABA test it. I really feel that is the only way to be scientifically accurate about any modifications. Once I get the mounting situation a little better (not requiring the existing bumper or fenders) I WILL be ABA testing this nose. It's going to be a little while before I can do that though.

However, that being said, I'm 51.5mpg so far on this tank (which is slightly better than my last 3-tank avg), and this has been the only significant change to the car. Still driving pretty much the way I always do. I'm trying to be as impartial as I can.
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Starting to work on the front skirts, I DO NOT like the way this is shaped (yet). Once I get home I'll work on it some more. This was done on the side of the road underneath an overpass.





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