VW Lupo 1.2tdi 3l (112 MPG)

[Vekke]

There is lots of aeromods you can do for it:
- close half of the cooling on the front. and make it controllable from dashboard.
- Close rear fenders
- Make smooth undertray
- Make rear diffusor
- Install kammback spoiler
- Install smaller mirrors
- Install rear hood deflector
- Install hood exit vents
- Install smooth hubcaps

And many more modifications is coming to my 2L lupo...

[MetroMPG]

Franmcm - congrats on the results you're getting from this car. Impressive.

North Americans are envious. Maybe one day we'll get the option to have a car like that (again - not since the first generation Honda Insight could we expect to "easily" get numbers like those).

[Angmaar]

Originally Posted by JasonG

Sure, rub it in. Wish we could get them over here.....

Angmar, have you looked at the Lupo? It has less to improve than the first gen Insight !
That said th 'Zombie Insight' did improve.......

Well... there's always something that could be improved.

[abently]

Originally Posted by JasonG

Sure, rub it in. Wish we could get them over here....

Same here..

[Franmcm]

Hi again
I canot get my hands on my lupo as know everybody wants to try it,
My father just went on a 700Km trip at 120/130 on highways (he is not an ecofueler) and average on all trip 3.8 l/100, know he wants 1 too (i am already looking to buy anouther),
My lupo 3l cost me arround 4000€ (it was less expensive but it had a damaged gearbox and i had to fix it so 4000€ total)
I dont plan to make any aerodinamic change as i dont think they will improve fuel consumption that much and i want to keep car as original as possible.
I am ancious to have to make a trip so i can make a real low fuel comsumption record.
I woulden't be surprised to get very very impressive numbers as in my comunity i am the "champion" of ecodriving... so i will make a test soon and keep post for it.

[brucepick]

A couple pics of the Lupo.
Just in case, like me, you'd like to know what it looks like.

[Franmcm]

Just got my hands on the lupo this weekend and here are the logs (all solo riding)
- At 60~80Km/h it spends 2,1l/100 (board computer says 2.0)

- At 80~100 with medium trafic it did 2.595l/100 (the computer indicated 2,5)

- At 100~120Km/h on normal road (not highway) It did 3,347l/100 Km. light trafic. (the computer indicated 3.2l/100)

I have films for all this logs and i plan to put them on youtube


The conclusions for me are:
Lupo 3l 1.2 tdi is an amazing car!!!!! I am loving it!
I am shore i can do as little as 1.8l/100 (at 60Km/h)
It can easely do 2.4l/100 at 80Km/h
3,0l/100 at 100km/h
3,4l/100 at 120Km/h

inside the city is very doable the 3.4l/100

This is a standard car (my car has abaut 140.000Km).
I dont plan to change it in the future as i like it as it is and i will probably sell it in near future. (I plan to buy the Audi A2 1.2 tdi when i can find one at a reasonable price)

[NHRABill]

Originally Posted by abently

Same here..

VW has no intrest in trying to meet the Safety Standards of North America because they feel it will not sell enough... Lots of great cars in Europe but it is the same story they fail safety and emission testing in the US.

Metroactive News & Issues | VW Lupo

Technically the Lupo was in The United States some time ago back then they called it a Fox. I remember a friend who had one it was a POS for sure but most cars were back in the late 80's

From what I just read it is Smaller than a Suzuki Swift aka Metro.... I will pass...

[Franmcm]

Originally Posted by NHRABill

VW has no intrest in trying to meet the Safety Standards of North America because they feel it will not sell enough... Lots of great cars in Europe but it is the same story they fail safety and emission testing in the US.

Metroactive News & Issues | VW Lupo

Technically the Lupo was in The United States some time ago back then they called it a Fox. I remember a friend who had one it was a POS for sure but most cars were back in the late 80's

From what I just read it is Smaller than a Suzuki Swift aka Metro.... I will pass...

The lupo and the Fox are two different models. The fox is a little bigger and was bild specially to be cheap. The lupo was bild to be small but is more refined and more expensive.
I dont believe lupo 3l would have sold a lot in USA. In europe the lupo 3l didnt sell that much. For the same price of the lupo 1.2tdi you could buy the 1.4tdi and this one had aircondition, assisted direction, bigger tyres(ususally people relate to bigger security), faster, easier, less expensive to mantain, with electric windows, with better seats.... All that made people buy the 1.4tdi instead of the 1.2tdi. And in Europe we tend to have and appreciate more the efficient cars. In SUV country where bigger is better with low gasoline prices and some allergy to diesel cars (although the lupo is fitted standart to use biodiesel, i just found this reading the instruction manual)... the small and hyper efficient lupo would in my opinion have been a disaster.

I dont think it would have been hard to meet the safety tests, the lupo meets them all here in europe and for the polution dont think it would have benn hard (the lupo has 81g/100Km) but with low selling future maybe it would not worth the costs involved on it, i can easy understant VW reasons.

[vtec-e]

Originally Posted by Franmcm

The conclusions for me are:
Lupo 3l 1.2 tdi is an amazing car!!!!! I am loving it!
I am shore i can do as little as 1.8l/100 (at 60Km/h)
It can easely do 2.4l/100 at 80Km/h
3,0l/100 at 100km/h
3,4l/100 at 120Km/h

inside the city is very doable the 3.4l/100

Lad, you are talking some serious numbers!
I second your point about not ecomodding the lupo.
The thing is, you use so little fuel that ANY money you spend on ecomodding materials will take forever to pay back.
But then you could always do it simply to get lower numbers on the fuel logs!