It seems like everyone wants an EV that has unlimited range, power, speed, AND is affordable.
How many people NEED to be able to drive 120 miles a day? That is one insane commute!
For me.. I don't need it daily... I need 200 miles in one go about every other month.... Which, given my current usage, doesn't make it economical to rent a car every other month.
For me - economics comes before environmental due to my economic situation. But, that doesn't mean I won't conserve what I've got
Hell, I'd love to be able to afford to own both an EV and a gasser... But I can't even afford the insurance for that In an case, give my usage, it will never pay for itself...
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Unfortunately, I'm one of those people who NEED 100+ miles on one charge. I have roughly a 37 mile commute one way, totals up to 73ish miles each day (West Bend to Miller Park area). Add on any other places to visit to and from work, and some extra capacity for when the batteries get older and that puts it at around 100 miles. However, I could probably get away with an incredibly small and simple car, maybe even a one seater. I don't need any luxuries besides heat for winter.
I am similar in terms of 75ish miles per day. I want the 25 mile buffer so that I can add errands to my trip without having to worry about it.
Hmmmmm. If the net savings in fuel cost offsets the cost of the insurance, then I think that would be a win, because then it would be like running two cars for the price of one. I don't mind the initial cost in this scenario because I could afford to keep both cars. In my present situation, I can't justify owning a second car because of the cost of insurance.
For 500km of range @80kph, the WAW would need about 7kWh of battery. Does anyone know how heavy that much battery would be?
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Just another pie-in-the-sky electric concept car, right?
Wrong, for two reasons. Firstly, we’ve driven it: CAR Online is the first to get behind the wheel of the Mitsubishi i-EV. Second, Mitsubishi reckons it can have it on sale in the UK as early as next year - though 2009 seem a safer bet – for under fifteen grand. That will buy you a properly engineered, four-seat city car with a decent boot, an 80mph top speed, a 100-mile range and a charge time of as little as half an hour.
That.. is cool... And I could probably work with that... If I can go 100 miles at ~70mph - then take a break while recharging for 30 mins... I could do that. Not sure the charge infrastructure is available though.
Hell, if I could put a hitch on and add a portable generator to charge while en route... I would totally go for it...
Price is still out of me league - but much much closer to acceptable... Perhaps once I've got a job....
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Wait a second... is that 15,000 pounds? for 15,000 dollars? Because it mentions the average standard car is 9 grand... And I don't know of any production cars for 9,000 dollars
$30,000 is def. too much for me and for awhile
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Cars have not created a new problem. They merely made more urgent the necessity to solve existing ones.
Wait a second... is that 15,000 pounds? for 15,000 dollars? Because it mentions the average standard car is 9 grand... And I don't know of any production cars for 9,000 dollars
$30,000 is def. too much for me and for awhile
Rats and double rats!!!!!! I'll bet you're right. Damn my USA-dollar-centric mind!!!
$30K US is a lot. I think $20K should be the goal. That's still a lot, but falls within the price range of a new compact car with lots of goodies.
Assuming you would buy an EV given certain conditions, what would they be?
For example, for me I would do a conversion on my current car and would need to have a steady job, ~10k, and a reasonably short commuter but still one that is too long to bike every day (meaning something like a 20 mile each way commute) so that range would need to be ~100 miles.
What about you? What kind of specs and price would it take to go EV?
I have never driven an EV, but since I regularly have to drive longish distances and am on a very modest budget, I think for me to become seriously interested in an EV it would have to have something like this:
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In an case, give my usage, it will never pay for itself...
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