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I don't like the stance. I get the lessened interference drag, but it has a high center of gravity.
If you drop the nose the shape is wrong. It would have to be level.
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The 'stance' is optimized for the lowest drag.Anything done,either to the ground clearance or inclination will increase the drag.I'll stick with the half-bodies.
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09-11-2019, 01:43 PM
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I know. But the half-body can take flight if something pries it loose from the ground.
I'm thinking of high-G turns.
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09-11-2019, 04:18 PM
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I know. But the half-body can take flight if something pries it loose from the ground.
I'm thinking of high-G turns.
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Some thoughts:
*at normal,legal speeds,lift wouldn't be an issue.
*unless angle-of-attack is introduced to a half-body,they are a zero-lift form.(all wings have zero-lift)
*High-G turns wouldn't be something germane to the normal driving experience.
But yeah,on a tight curve in the Aptera,you wouldn't be able to shove a pin up my ---.
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09-11-2019, 04:42 PM
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*at normal,legal speeds,lift wouldn't be an issue.
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Ground strikes.
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But yeah,on a tight curve in the Aptera...
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By Jove, I think he gets it.
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09-12-2019, 04:01 PM
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What if we add 2 plus wheels just for moments like make turns?
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09-12-2019, 06:21 PM
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Better to make the two front wheels lean in turns.
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09-12-2019, 07:49 PM
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I was not joking... I mean small retractile wheels for curves, giving more stabilization.
The 2 wheele Monotracer had two retractive small wheels for moments when it would stop or reduce to extremelly slow.
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Better to make the two front wheels lean in turns.
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09-13-2019, 12:29 AM
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The 2 wheele Monotracer had two retractive small wheels for moments when it would stop or reduce to extremelly slow.
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Unless it could still benefit from less-stringent emission and safety regulations which apply to motorcycles, forget anything similar to it becoming mainstream
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09-13-2019, 10:49 AM
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Well... Monotracer, despite the small retractile assistance wheels, it's still a classified as a motorcycle.
The new Aptera it's more close to reality today than 9 years ago, since today batteries are cheaper and many components are produced by many different companies, while in during Aptera early years they had to produce nearly everything.
They are using on-wheels electric motors this time, one in each wheel, and not a huge powerful electric motor abobe the rear wheel extructure.
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I wonder a 10.000 miles range using Braga's battery. Or more if the roof was couvered with solar cells.
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Unless it could still benefit from less-stringent emission and safety regulations which apply to motorcycles, forget anything similar to it becoming mainstream
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09-14-2019, 01:17 PM
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What if we add 2 plus wheels just for moments like make turns?
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That was done on the James Bede-designed Lite-Star,aero-two-wheeler of the 1980s.
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