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Old 10-15-2012, 08:04 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:49 AM   #22 (permalink)
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What do you suggest we do?
Ever notice that in these discussions no solutions are ever forthcoming ?

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Old 10-17-2012, 12:01 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Hogwash on the oil reserve estimates. They are discovering huge reserves everyday. They just finished doing seismic in my region, they found more oil than Texas. I have 16 new wells within miles of my house that were not there a year ago. Not to mention Alaska, the entire northern region of Canada are vast quantities of the stuff, more found everyday. They are also finding many of the old dry wells that were capped and abandoned are now producing again...oddly none of this is newsworthy I suppose.

Don't get me wrong, I am not the 'devil may care' type, I recycle and conserve as much as I can and try to keep mother earth in good shape, but the truth is there is plenty of everything. We should be wise with what we have though.
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Old 10-17-2012, 12:47 PM   #24 (permalink)
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pure propaganda this is related to UN AGENDA 21

the entire premise of this thread is
pure
nonsense

Russian Proves 'Peak Oil' Is A Misleading Scam

there are many sources of information that completely refute the flawed concept of peak oil

yet the green wienies continue to LIE and falsely submit their propaganda
over
and
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etc ....

the end of oil is not near
the end of freedom may be
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Old 10-17-2012, 02:59 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Wether we find anything new is largely irrelevant - it only postpones things as no new resources are created.

I don't buy into the alarmist thing, but population growth + ending supplies ARE something to think about. Seriously.
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Responding to this thread is a waste of energy and time. The energy of this post I might get back tomorrow by getting 1-2 MPG extra, maybe more - I'm using a solar recharged netbook.

The time I can never get back.

My future strategy is if the thread is started by Suspect... I will avoid it as it will be alarmist pish. I advise the same to anyone else, the "thing" is a muppet.

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Old 10-17-2012, 08:41 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Even if we got another 300 years of oil, why waste it!?
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Yes, we're getting more wells now, and production is increasing overall. But that's a temporary reprieve that will last as long as demand keeps those wells profitable (remember, we need $80 - $100 oil to make new wells work).

A sobering look at oil shale, based on statistics from the North Dakota fields:
The Oil Drum | Is Shale Oil Production from Bakken Headed for a Run with


Again, the reason this stuff now works for us when decades ago it didn't is because current oil prices make it economically viable. But as the productivity of new wells goes down as the easy-to-tap reserves start to run out, it becomes less and less economical to do it. And these wells start losing productivity a lot faster than traditional oil wells do... meaning higher upfront costs and the need for higher oil prices to support them.

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It would help your cause more if you didn't cite anti-semitic conspiracy theories based on old rumors and urban legends about fantastic Russian "deep oil".

I've been hearing the exact same tin-foil hat story for years, putting a new date on it doesn't make it any more true. Doesn't help, either, that the Vietnamese oil fields cited weren't actually discovered by the Russians. The first strike was by Mobil, which then had to leave after the Vietnam war. The Russian developers moved in and developed the field after.

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Oil is finite.

But we will not run out of it.

Because there will come a time when we can't afford to drill for it.

It's like arguing that there will always be new planets for us to colonize if we run out of Earth. Yes, there will always be new places to move. We just can't afford to get there.
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Even if we got another 300 years of oil, why waste it!?
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