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Old 10-21-2012, 02:10 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Arrigonis -- I was bored too, that's why I was trolling you. But, it gave you something to do on a rainy afternoon, so win—win!

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There are lots and lots of articles and studies about this...
Some are written by scientists, economists and activists...in the 1700s, 1800s, 1900s and 2000s - all of them predicted we should be dead, starving...living in a new desert, or just not living at all because the world ended. Have you read the latest end of world sci-fi...
What's different about Richard Buckminster Fuller is that his Anticipatory Design Science put tools on the shelf for problems we would and will face later. An example: his Synergetic Geometry gives us a conceptual framework to work on the nanoscale. Doing ever more with ever less qualifies as General Efficiency.

There are conceptual frameworks in which in February 2013, after a 3-month interregnum between Ages, we begin a 10K year Golden Age.

I've always looked for science fiction that shows a future that I would care to inhabit. So that leaves us with, ummm...... Barbarella?

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It woukd probably be more fun than discussing peak oil.
No doubt, but I don't want to get a reputation for going off topic. It's a slippery slope.

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Old 10-21-2012, 02:40 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Responding to this thread is a waste of energy and time...

My future strategy is if the thread is started by Suspect... I will avoid it as it will be alarmist pish.
Perhaps Suspect is actually anti-alarmist, and posts these drive-by articles without followup just so we can destroy them with reason, thus proving the utter uselessness of worrying. After all, Suspect never responds to the legitimate criticisms of extreme alarmism.

Well played Suspect. Well played.
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Old 10-21-2012, 02:46 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Ah... Xkcd...

That is precisely the problem for those of us with the uncomfortable mantle of "moderator" on various forums...
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Old 10-23-2012, 04:49 PM   #44 (permalink)
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See - that is a response - we can discuss and should move this to another thread - if you can spell my login name straight Start that thread, post a supposition or a pov and off we go. Seems OK, right ? As opposed to this thread which is, er, what ?

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Perhaps Suspect is actually anti-alarmist...Well played Suspect. Well played.
Its a belief I suppose, like Pastafarianism. Good luck.
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Old 10-23-2012, 04:52 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I have decided to occasionally check Suspect's profile for new threads and to warn of tw.tt.shness where I find it. I think it is a service to man (or indeed person) kind.
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Old 10-23-2012, 08:45 PM   #46 (permalink)
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if you can spell my login name straight
I apologize. Sincerely. I try to be a better person than that.

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Start that thread, post a supposition or a pov and off we go. Seems OK, right ? As opposed to this thread which is, er, what ?
I've forgotten what we were talking about. Want to talk about Bucky Fuller?
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Not sure WHY denialists want to shut down discussions about subjects they don't like or don't agree with.

No one likely KNOWS what the future will really bring...but some people can extrapolate from known info into the future....except in many cases...the future is now.

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Number 961 does have a point though.

We do go through resources at an unsustainable rate.

So we must put far more emphasis on reusing and recycling what we have.
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Let D Rumsfeld (one of the purveyors of the oil wars) set you straight...
The guy that had to put *drapes* on *statues* so he could concentrate on his speech? It is his best quote though.

The Peak Prosperity website was spinning its wheel so I watched the 36 minute UK version on YouTube. He covered ground that R.B.Fuller worked in 1928-40. And it appears his solution is to play the stock market.

Here's 2:36 on the Robert Snyder film
Here's enough Bucky for anyone: Buckmister Fuller (459 videos)

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