Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > General Efficiency Discussion
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 01-25-2012, 04:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
EV test pilot
 
bennelson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Oconomowoc, WI, USA
Posts: 4,435

Electric Cycle - '81 Kawasaki KZ440
90 day: 334.6 mpg (US)

S10 - '95 Chevy S10
90 day: 30.48 mpg (US)

Electro-Metro - '96 Ben Nelson's "Electro-Metro"
90 day: 129.81 mpg (US)

The Wife's Car - Plug-in Prius - '04 Toyota Prius
90 day: 78.16 mpg (US)
Thanks: 17
Thanked 663 Times in 388 Posts
Wife needs a new car - eco-family car choice suggestions

Hi everyone.

My wife has had a 2000 Pontiac Sunfire with a 2.2l gas engine and 3-speed automatic transmission since the day it was new.

It now has 180,000 miles on it and lots of little things wrong with it. In our area, there's lots of salt used on the roads in the winter, which really takes its toll on the undersides of cars. All the brake lines and fuel lines underneigth are rusty, and there's a number of other issues.

Long story short - it's time for a new car. (Which is relative - we do not have the money to buy a $20,000 car, nor would we want to.)

We could spend up to $8000, but less would be better than more.. We'd like to get something with good fuel economy, and will last a while. It needs to seat at least two adults and a baby seat. (No a Chevy S10 will NOT work. Not with a manual transmission anyways...)

It also does need air conditioning. This isn't a luxury. My wife easily suffers from heat sickness and can actually get pretty ill from it. We don't need AC all the time, but it is a requirement for at least a few days out of the year.

Either manual or Automatic is fine, but she has never driven stick before. (Just hasn't owned one, so no reason to.) She would be happy to learn to drive manual transmission, but wouldn't really be able to test drive a stick car properly right now.

Cars near the top of the list would include a used Prius or other hybrids. I also like the idea of the good fuel economy provided by something like a VW TDI Golf or Jetta. (Although they seem to have a price premium or a LOT of miles on the used ones.)

Could you guys weigh in with some suggestions for a good eco-family car?

Thanks in advance.

-Ben

__________________


300mpg.org Learn how to BUILD YOUR OWN ELECTRIC CAR CHEAP
My YouTube Videos
  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 01-25-2012, 04:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Deltona, FL, U.S.
Posts: 37

tow vehicle - '97 toyota 4runner limited

none - '09 honda civic si

none - '91 honda crx dx

sleepy - '91 Honda CRX dx
Thanks: 6
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
i like to get the most for my hard earned dollar that i can, so usually stick to either honda or toyota
maybe a civic?
get a base model 4 dr with auto and you will see 40mpg's on the highway

honda civic w/59k

scratch that, look at this one!!!!!

2006 Honda Civic Hybrid BEST DEAL on HERE!!!!!
low mileage civic hybrid for 10K....
__________________
1991 honda crx dx
1993 honda civic hatch
1997 toyota 4runner
2006 honda civic si
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2012, 04:45 PM   #3 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Deltona, FL, U.S.
Posts: 37

tow vehicle - '97 toyota 4runner limited

none - '09 honda civic si

none - '91 honda crx dx

sleepy - '91 Honda CRX dx
Thanks: 6
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
2003 Honda Civic Hybrid

another hybrid honda
__________________
1991 honda crx dx
1993 honda civic hatch
1997 toyota 4runner
2006 honda civic si
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2012, 04:53 PM   #4 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Ryland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Western Wisconsin
Posts: 3,903

honda cb125 - '74 Honda CB 125 S1
90 day: 79.71 mpg (US)

green wedge - '81 Commuter Vehicles Inc. Commuti-Car

Blue VX - '93 Honda Civic VX
Thanks: 867
Thanked 434 Times in 354 Posts
Most people with kids want 4 doors as it's easier to get the kid in to safety seats, so I assume this is true in your case as well?
Toyota Tercel, Echo, or Yaris, I also like the Corrola but I've known a handful of folks who have them burn a ton of oil, 4 door Yaris hatch back would be at the top of my list and in about 10 years when my car rusts out will most likely be my next gasoline car.
I would suggest a Honda Civic, but other then the DX non of the 4 door versions get very good mileage and even the DX kind of sucks unless you get the hybrid or something that is old enough that it's starting to rust out as well.

Others I would look at would be

Mazda 3

Scion xA

Kia Rio

All of those should get 35+ EPA mpg, have versions with 4 door and be in your price range.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2012, 06:55 PM   #5 (permalink)
Eco-ventor
 
jakobnev's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: sweden
Posts: 1,645

Princess - '92 Mazda MX-3 GS
House of Tudor
Team Mazda
90 day: 53.54 mpg (US)

Shirubāarō (*´ω`*) - '05 Toyota Prius Executive
Team Toyota
90 day: 54.88 mpg (US)

Blue Thunder - '20 Hyundai IONIQ Trend PHEV
Team Hyundai
Plug-in Hybrids
90 day: 214.18 mpg (US)
Thanks: 76
Thanked 709 Times in 450 Posts
Send a message via MSN to jakobnev
Stop and go or highway?
__________________




2016: 128.75L for 1875.00km => 6.87L/100km (34.3MPG US)
2017: 209.14L for 4244.00km => 4.93L/100km (47.7MPG US)
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2012, 07:13 PM   #6 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 5,927
Thanks: 877
Thanked 2,024 Times in 1,304 Posts
This is probably a scam. $2500 02 Prius.

02TOYOTA HYBRID PRIUS

regards
Mech
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2012, 07:19 PM   #7 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Deltona, FL, U.S.
Posts: 37

tow vehicle - '97 toyota 4runner limited

none - '09 honda civic si

none - '91 honda crx dx

sleepy - '91 Honda CRX dx
Thanks: 6
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
i rented a 2006 base civic back in 08 and drove from fl to nc doing 80mph all the way, and i got right at 40mpg's
i ended up buying a 2009 civic si instead, as i autocross and run track days...but if i hadnt, i would have got a base 4 dr 2006 + civic
__________________
1991 honda crx dx
1993 honda civic hatch
1997 toyota 4runner
2006 honda civic si
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2012, 08:20 PM   #8 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Michigan
Posts: 238

Grasshopper - '11 Ford Fiesta SES
Team Ford
90 day: 50.37 mpg (US)

Feejer - '09 Yamaha FJR1300 AE
Motorcycle
90 day: 42.73 mpg (US)
Thanks: 68
Thanked 35 Times in 27 Posts
Might be able to step up a few years to a 2005-2007 Ford Focus, Fusion, or Taurus with your budget. Any of those should be roomier than a Sunfire and just a touch better FE. The Honda's, Toyota's, and VW's all carry a price premium as you have noted.

Kirk
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2012, 08:44 PM   #9 (permalink)
(:
 
Frank Lee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: up north
Posts: 12,762

Blue - '93 Ford Tempo
Last 3: 27.29 mpg (US)

F150 - '94 Ford F150 XLT 4x4
90 day: 18.5 mpg (US)

Sport Coupe - '92 Ford Tempo GL
Last 3: 69.62 mpg (US)

ShWing! - '82 honda gold wing Interstate
90 day: 33.65 mpg (US)

Moon Unit - '98 Mercury Sable LX Wagon
90 day: 21.24 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,585
Thanked 3,555 Times in 2,218 Posts
An EV Expedition or Suburban should do nicely.
__________________


  Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2012, 09:28 PM   #10 (permalink)
EV test pilot
 
bennelson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Oconomowoc, WI, USA
Posts: 4,435

Electric Cycle - '81 Kawasaki KZ440
90 day: 334.6 mpg (US)

S10 - '95 Chevy S10
90 day: 30.48 mpg (US)

Electro-Metro - '96 Ben Nelson's "Electro-Metro"
90 day: 129.81 mpg (US)

The Wife's Car - Plug-in Prius - '04 Toyota Prius
90 day: 78.16 mpg (US)
Thanks: 17
Thanked 663 Times in 388 Posts
Does anyone have experience with the Nissan Versa?

The base sedan is very affordable new and has AC on it. We might consider a new vehicle if it is on the more affordable end, and we spread the cost of it out over, say, 13 years or so! (of course, not paying for financing saves money too!)

__________________


300mpg.org Learn how to BUILD YOUR OWN ELECTRIC CAR CHEAP
My YouTube Videos

Last edited by bennelson; 01-25-2012 at 09:38 PM..
  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread


Tags
car choice, family car, hybrid





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com