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Old 09-23-2018, 10:17 PM   #131 (permalink)
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I'm going to keep the heat pump. I installed a wood and coal furnace, to reduce winter heating costs I have a gas dryer that I don't use I will convert it over to propane this is more of an off grid thing and want to get a propane stove.
So far I have three 100lb propane tanks I bought used and had filled for the price of 1 new tank filled.
Then this year I plan on also getting a little wood stove or pellet burner for the other end of the house.
The only drawbacks to propane that I am aware of are a smell, and perhaps some soot. Both related to improper combustion. I expect that you will have that covered.

Propane is quite a bit more money than natural gas here, but I guess that's related to how much you use.

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Old 09-24-2018, 08:46 AM   #132 (permalink)
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The problem with natural gas is I can use 0 and it still costs $25.
At that rate natural gas is way more expensive.

With the summer surcharges I could buy 400 pounds of propane.
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Another 1,000 wind turbines going up in NM under the corona wind project.
Start date, probably next week, all turbines on line in 2020.
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It looks like they are only allowed to pump 22Mw on the grid...
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There is good wind there. 2.2GW nameplate.
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I'm a bit indifferent. In 50 years we'll all be on nuke power, so wind for now might help get us there.
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On the radio they said 22Mw, twice.

I know we got wind here. They send wind turbines here to wear them out in 10 years.

They could build a 2Gw line but it would be gigantic. With 140 miles of materials and 140 miles of right of ways the price tag would be even more gigantic.
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There is no sense putting in 2.2 GW of turbines if you don't run at least a 1.5 GW power line. The plan is to wire 160 miles to Albaquerque to turn left on the Sunzia 3 GW line 520 miles to Arizona. $2 Billion. But it is still held up over bird safety at the Rio Grande crossing at Escondida.
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And people think we will have 2,000 mile TeraWatt level transmission lines running from country to country after we electrify all energy.
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I'm skeptical. The premise is vertical mixing. The blades are removing energy not adding it, so where does the vertical component come from?

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