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Old 12-03-2019, 10:30 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I got the R3 today, looking forward to higher fuel efficiency!!

Consumer Reports says wet braking is poor, handling, hydoplaning, dry braking is not good. Can anyone share their R3 experience with these properties?


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Old 01-12-2020, 10:43 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Unfortunately, sears refunded, said they weren't able to get it in. Guess I'm stuck with OHTSU all seasons this winter. Fortunately, not much snow this year.

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Nokian Hakka R3s are excellent. They are "ultra" low rolling resistance; while the eNtyre are just low rolling resistance.
How can you tell R3's are ultra low rolling resistance, while eNtyre are just low rolling resistance? I didn't see it listed as such on simpletire.com. Which all seasons are ultra low rolling resistance & which is ranked #1 as the absolute best in fuel efficiency?
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I got the R3 today, looking forward to higher fuel efficiency!!

Consumer Reports says wet braking is poor, handling, hydoplaning, dry braking is not good. Can anyone share their R3 experience with these properties?
We have Nokian Hakka R3 on three cars, and they are equal or better on all those things than any other winter tire.
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How can you tell R3's are ultra low rolling resistance, while eNtyre are just low rolling resistance? I didn't see it listed as such on simpletire.com. Which all seasons are ultra low rolling resistance & which is ranked #1 as the absolute best in fuel efficiency?
This is how Nokian rates them, and having owned both, I can confirm it. I buy them from the guy who won an early EcoModder contest:

https://ecomodder.com/blog/20-yearol...l-economy-run/

https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...out-14205.html

He got 118MPG on Hakka R (first generation).
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Thanks, bud. What I wouldn't do to get 118 mpg, is it possible in a non hybrid 2014 Camry se?

What is the most fuel efficient all seasons tire?
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If you need a "real" all season tire - and by that I mean actual snow and ice in the winter - then I like the Nokian WR. They are currently WR G4: https://www.nokiantires.com/tires/pa...weather-tires/

Nokian call them an all-weather tire.

These are roughly similar to the eNtyre for rolling resistance.
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With 195-65-15 I got about 60,000 miles out of a set of WRG3 on the 2010 Cobalt, The Elantra has the same size at 25,000 WRG4 7-8 32nd left so should get close to 60,000. The Impala only has 10,000 on them so they look like new.

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Haven't put them on the Cruise yet because it only has 20,000 miles on it.

simple tire finder isn't working very well today but finally found your size for $135, about same as ebay or thru walmart.com. I like the price of the 195-15's alot more.
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Thanks, bud. What I wouldn't do to get 118 mpg, is it possible in a non hybrid 2014 Camry se?
Yes, but you won't do it with a set of tires.

Anything is possible. I'd suggest half from drivetrain and half from aerodynamics. A good benchmark for aerodynamics would be Aerocivic

For the drivetrain I'd see if there is room for a 20hp E-assist altermotor.
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I would settle for 117 MPG, but I have low standards.
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For the drivetrain I'd see if there is room for a 20hp E-assist altermotor.
Never heard of that before, how does it boost mpg, how much mpg gains & how much to get one installed?

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