11-24-2014, 12:02 AM
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What does this guy get out of it, 10minute video on something that does not work? I'm confused!
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11-24-2014, 04:08 AM
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11-24-2014, 05:27 AM
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If the hydrogen is created on demand, what's the throttle response like. If your making hydrogen and storing it, it will leak out of anything.
But you could vent the Oxygen into the cabin, so there's that.
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11-24-2014, 08:34 AM
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If you could generate enough HHO for the system efficiency to increase, why not just keep going until you need no liquid fuel whatsoever.
And you could wipe out the oil industry in a few years with your new "PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE" that creates power from nothing but water.
Why do we waste our time on this forum when the truly "INFORMED" have already solved mankinds energy needs for all eternity.
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11-24-2014, 08:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Mechanic
If you could generate enough HHO for the system efficiency to increase, why not just keep going until you need no liquid fuel whatsoever.
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Brilliant!...lol.
I did some reading on these kits a while back and it seems that these HHO systems are good for cleaning intakes and combustion chambers, and that any increase in MPG are due to the intakes and valves etc becoming "renewed" and clean again.
So, perhaps any FE gains (perceived or actual) are due to carbon build-up removal, and have nothing to do with HHO at all...lol.
It doesn't matter...I don't know anything anyway...lol, I'm just following along. This is great stuff.
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11-24-2014, 12:09 PM
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I surrender!
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11-24-2014, 12:29 PM
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http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...ics-22462.html
Did you read all of it?
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Originally Posted by oil pan 4
The only link that was worth anything was the nasa link. The diluted HHO believers saw it as evidence HHO works. I see it as the best evidence that it does not work.
In the link nasa bottle fed an engine on a dyno hydrogen gas. At the most efficient ratio of hydrogen to air they could find and that only increased the engines fuel economy 3%.
The ratio of hydrogen to air was several cubic feet per second, vastly many more times the gas then a bank of HHO generators could produce let alone what a car alternator could power.
That right there gives you everything you need to know about HHO generators and why they don't work.
First the hydrogen gas came from a bottle in huge amounts that you could never get from an HHO generator.
The engine didn't have to turn an alternator to make the hydrogen.
The fuel economy increase was only 3%, which can be achieved by adding just about any flammable gas to an engines intake air. Which is nothing special.
I wouldn't say hydrogen doesn't work, it just preforms as expected, lack luster and no miracles.
To put things into perspective, adding a very elaborate and dangerous flammable gas induction system to a vehicles intake can net you up to 3%, but doing an alternator delete has been good for around 5% and in some cases up to a 10% fuel economy improvement.
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11-24-2014, 12:56 PM
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I still surrender!
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11-24-2014, 01:09 PM
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So hho scam people make fake forums hoping u will try their product when your homemade one doesn't work.
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11-24-2014, 01:14 PM
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It's probably some combination of that, and confirmation bias in those who've spent money on the products. Most want to see a return on a something they've spent hundreds of dollars on, so they interpret the (often insufficient) data they have favorably.
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