Are you on Team Bollinger or Team Rivian?

[JSH]

Rivian. With the investments by Amazon, Ford, and Cox they have the money to tool up for production.

Amazon announce today that they will be ordering 100,000 electric delivery vans. That give Rivian a steady book of orders to keep them going.

[Xist]

Rivian founder and chief executive R.J. Scaringe told Reuters the mid-range R1T pickup truck with a glass sky panel that can change from blue to clear was about $69,000. It can travel 300 miles on a full charge. A similar range R1S SUV will sell for about $72,000.

Electric vehicle maker Rivian: expect prices lower than previously announced

Rivian Preparing to Build EVs for Ford, Amazon, and Itself
All three brands would share the same skateboard chassis.

[freebeard]

Bluclear is my new favorite word.

[oil pan 4]

Another one bites the dust.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ford-term...144542412.html

Yeah they're just "shelving it", until they can quietly kill it later on with out anyone noticing.

[rmay635703]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

Another one bites the dust.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ford-term...144542412.html

Yeah they're just "shelving it", until they can quietly kill it later on with out anyone noticing.

Despite Amazon I don’t think Rivian will ever make consumer vehicles

I don’t really think Bollonger will either though.

I have been waiting for something similar to the CNT battery company fiasco where the company slowly dies draining money renames itself hides the CNT battery releases and starts marketing emulsified diesel and bunker fuel then slowly dies again.

Good lord, Micro bubble burst but EcoloCap still be scamming

[JSH]

Originally Posted by rmay635703

Despite Amazon I don’t think Rivian will ever make consumer vehicles

I don’t really think Bollonger will either though.

I have been waiting for something similar to the CNT battery company fiasco where the company slowly dies draining money renames itself hides the CNT battery releases and starts marketing emulsified diesel and bunker fuel then slowly dies again.

Good lord, Micro bubble burst but EcoloCap still be scamming

Workhorse / Lordstown Motors will fit that bill.

Watching videos of the Rivian assembly line being installed makes me believe they will produce vehicles. They are very close to production.

[rmay635703]

Originally Posted by JSH

Workhorse / Lordstown Motors will fit that bill.

Watching videos of the Rivian assembly line being installed makes me believe they will produce vehicles. They are very close to production.

I believe they will produce something but doubtful it will go to consumers.

Happy to be proved wrong I just don’t see it given the direction things are going

[JSH]

Originally Posted by rmay635703

I believe they will produce something but doubtful it will go to consumers.

Happy to be proved wrong I just don’t see it given the direction things are going

I expect they will start with the consumer truck and SUV as planned and then ramp up the commercial van. Long term I can see the van being the volume product but the consumer vehicles as low volume products providing the bulk of their profits. The problem with commercial vehicles is that buyers - especially fleet buyers - are laser focused on cost per mile. They don’t load their vehicles up with expensive options like consumer products.

Yes we are in a recession but it isn’t hitting the people that buy $70,000 - $100,000 cars nearly as hard as the working poor and middle class.

[Hersbird]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

Another one bites the dust.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ford-term...144542412.html

Yeah they're just "shelving it", until they can quietly kill it later on with out anyone noticing.

That's Ford canceling their relationship with Rivian, Rivian will still release their truck. I still would bet on it beating Tesla to market. Ford is just dropping their partnership for 3 reasons. They can just do their own. Gas is $1.70/gal nationwide. And new car sales have been hit hard, and production has mostly gone to zero.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by rmay635703

I believe they will produce something but doubtful it will go to consumers.

At least in an early stage, securing some high-volume contracts for fleets might be the way to start, and eventually increase the economics of scale which could ultimately allow a quicker return of investment leading to a more affordable price for individual buyers. Time will tell...