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Old 02-15-2021, 09:11 AM   #31 (permalink)
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We had a local guy here in Reno commute from Reno to Sparks daily on the freeway in a Zenn. R to S is a downhill, back home is uphill more or less depending on offramp for incline angle. I don't know how long this lasted, as I became embroiled in the lithium battery ticking timebomb debate and left the group (who ended up adopting lithium batteries)

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Old 02-15-2021, 12:50 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I've often thought that a good car setup for our family would be two cars, a NEV and an ICEV.
Back when NEVs were a growing segment, I used to think so too.

But my province never ended up allowing NEVs to be registered here. Official reason was lack of safety equipment/crashworthiness in the vehicles compared to regular cars / conventional EVs.

I converted the ForkenSwift instead, and even at just 48V it ended up with a higher top speed than the NEV class, since it was based on a regular car (and thus not electronically speed limited). Though I'm sure a ZENN would have beat it to 25 mph/40 km/h in a drag race!

It's all moot now anyway, since these days you can find a "beater" EV (eg. early Leaf or Volt) for less money than it would cost to do a comparable conversion.

Although none of the above beats a free ZENN.
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Old 02-16-2021, 03:22 PM   #33 (permalink)
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But my province never ended up allowing NEVs to be registered here. Official reason was lack of safety equipment/crashworthiness in the vehicles compared to regular cars / conventional EVs.
But there's a big difference in a crash at 25mpg and 85mph. That's why NEV's had a limited speed of 25mph and aren't legal to drive on roads that were over 30 or 35mph in the places where they're allowed.

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It's all moot now anyway, since these days you can find a "beater" EV (eg. early Leaf or Volt) for less money than it would cost to do a comparable conversion.

Although none of the above beats a free ZENN.
True. However, unless there actually are free ZENN's out there, a beater ICE is still cheaper in some aspects, although maybe not over all. I'm often tempted to get a used Leaf again, but don't like the selection that's available for the price. I ended up selling my SL with 6kW L2 charging, CHAdeMO, heat pump and had just lost it's first bar for $7,000 when I changed to the Avalon. But even Leaf's that have just 4 or 5 bars, no heat pump, slower 3kW charging and of course no CHAdeMO seem to still go for $5,000. Yet for that $7,000 I can get one that's pretty close to what I had with heat pump, faster charging and not so bad battery. Now if one of those beaters would go for $2,000-$3,000, I might get one. Otherwise I'll wait until I have enough money for the better Leaf.
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Have you been following the Jalopnik series about the guy who found a $2000 (?) Leaf?
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