Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Hypermiling / EcoDriver's Ed
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 03-05-2013, 11:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: vacouver, Canada
Posts: 29
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Why is my car so bad at coasting

Hello, first time visiting the forum, did quite a bit of reading, lots of helpful folks here. It is awesome to see that so many people care about the efficient driving.

I have been experienmenting the burst and coast technique. I have a 2009 I4 accord, a fairly heavy car and has terriable mileage, 18.6 in the city with grandpa style driving.

One thing I notice that is quite different from my old Civic, is that this car does't seems to roll very far at times. When I accelerate to 60-65 kmh and let of the gas, the car feels like hit a rubber band, and slows down to 40 in 10 seconds. So I end up doing quite a bit of "Bursting".

I have checked online in accord forums and 18.6 MPG is a very low number for any accord, even the V6 are pulling better numbers. Althought I am 100% city driving, I do drive very carefully but it just seem there is a hole in my fuel tank.

Any ideas why a car would not coast far?

  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 03-05-2013, 12:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
(:
 
Frank Lee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: up north
Posts: 12,762

Blue - '93 Ford Tempo
Last 3: 27.29 mpg (US)

F150 - '94 Ford F150 XLT 4x4
90 day: 18.5 mpg (US)

Sport Coupe - '92 Ford Tempo GL
Last 3: 69.62 mpg (US)

ShWing! - '82 honda gold wing Interstate
90 day: 33.65 mpg (US)

Moon Unit - '98 Mercury Sable LX Wagon
90 day: 21.24 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,585
Thanked 3,555 Times in 2,218 Posts
Pull up the anchor.
__________________


  Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2013, 01:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
justme1969's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: ff
Posts: 459
Thanks: 59
Thanked 38 Times in 30 Posts
You diddnt give enough info. on this forum fine details are the rule!
stick v/s auto trans.
Are you physically placeing it into neutral?
Do to have black deposites or rust inside/ outside on rims.
Just too many variables, things like the anchor dropped from trunk etc.
sorry cant help ya.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2013, 01:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
JRMichler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Phillips, WI
Posts: 1,013

Nameless - '06 GMC Canyon
90 day: 37.45 mpg (US)

22 Maverick - '22 Ford Maverick XL
90 day: 42.77 mpg (US)
Thanks: 188
Thanked 466 Times in 287 Posts
Some things to check:
Tire pressure
Brake dragging
Wheel alignment
__________________
06 Canyon: The vacuum gauge plus wheel covers helped increase summer 2015 mileage to 38.5 MPG, while summer 2016 mileage was 38.6 MPG without the wheel covers. Drove 33,021 miles 2016-2018 at 35.00 MPG.

22 Maverick: Summer 2022 burned 62.74 gallons in 3145.1 miles for 50.1 MPG. Winter 2023-2024 - 2416.7 miles, 58.66 gallons for 41 MPG.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2013, 01:22 PM   #5 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
mcrews's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 3,523

The Q Sold - '02 Infiniti Q45 Sport
90 day: 23.08 mpg (US)

blackie - '14 nissan altima sv
Thanks: 2,203
Thanked 663 Times in 478 Posts
as far as intown mileage....how many miles do you drive aday?
short commute will almost always mean low mpg. (also lots of stop and go)

Ruinning stock size tires?
__________________
MetroMPG: "Get the MPG gauge - it turns driving into a fuel & money saving game."

ECO MODS PERFORMED:
First: ScangaugeII
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...eii-23306.html

Second: Grille Block
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...e-10912-2.html

Third: Full underbelly pan
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...q45-11402.html

Fourth: rear skirts and 30.4mpg on trip!
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...tml#post247938
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2013, 01:28 PM   #6 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
PressEnter[]'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Saratoga County, NY
Posts: 170

TheEgg - '18 Volkswagen Tiguan SEL Premium
90 day: 29.55 mpg (US)
Thanks: 12
Thanked 17 Times in 17 Posts
A dragging brake caliper or e-brake will do it, but it sounds like you're coasting in gear (aka engine braking) which probably won't take you very far anyway. I'd guess the burst of acceleration will actually hurt you more than just driving at a steady speed (or steady throttle position, depending on hilliness).
__________________

  Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2013, 01:47 PM   #7 (permalink)
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,515

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 52.71 mpg (US)

Even Fancier Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 70.75 mpg (US)

Appliance car - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage ES (base)
90 day: 52.48 mpg (US)
Thanks: 4,062
Thanked 6,960 Times in 3,604 Posts
Too bad you wrote now instead of a month ago when I was still in Van, or I would have said "c'mon over and let's have a look at that puppy."
__________________
Project MPGiata! Mods for getting 50+ MPG from a 1990 Miata
Honda mods: Ecomodding my $800 Honda Fit 5-speed beater
Mitsu mods: 70 MPG in my ecomodded, dirt cheap, 3-cylinder Mirage.
Ecodriving test: Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown



EcoModder
has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2013, 01:48 PM   #8 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: vacouver, Canada
Posts: 29
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Sorry guys I guess I didn't give enough info, but here are the things I checked/done in bullet form:

- auto trans and yes I was coasting in gear
- tires are pumped 5-6 PSI above rated pressure (38psi)
- outside temp is about 2-5 C
- communte is 6km, and 9 possible red lights/stop sighs
- check brake by drove without breaking for a while and the rotor is cold so it is not dragging
- not sure how to check if E-brake is dragging
- not sure how to check alignment, the car has 50k KM on it and no tire change
- just switched to synthetic oil so far didn't obvserve any difference
- anchor in the trunk???? what???
- the front wheel is quite difficult to turn when I jack the car up, but let's assume brake is not dragging, what else could be the cause?

However, I must add, if I put the car in neutual physically, it will coast farrrrrrrrrrrrr.....
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2013, 02:29 PM   #9 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
justme1969's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: ff
Posts: 459
Thanks: 59
Thanked 38 Times in 30 Posts
hmm. Ya need a owner of same car to pipe in but if there is a sports switch turn it off.
front wheel??? mabe bearings, or calliper, or mabe not placed into Neutral and you have hands on slip side of transaxle?
I will say you jacked and then placed car into Neutral with key switched on. and vehicle should have no driveline resistance on that wheel.
You have no warning lights on is also what ill say.
Now look into the Malf codes may find anti lock issue or transmission issue there or perhaps it was damaged wheel hub, and bearing drag is cause.
Hope this helps Ya.

Not sure if it has 123dr n r p or 1 2 dr odr n r p but use gear 3 or in second configuration the lower dr.
It could be overdrive lock up.
My r/t is Locked up over 1500 rpm. to coast I must select N myself.
If yours is then its faulty or a sports switch etc.

Last edited by justme1969; 03-05-2013 at 02:37 PM.. Reason: I wanted to.?
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2013, 02:33 PM   #10 (permalink)
The Dirty330 Modder
 
Gealii's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: North East Ohio, USA
Posts: 642

CruzeRS - '15 Chevy Cruze LT RS
90 day: 41.29 mpg (US)
Thanks: 10
Thanked 67 Times in 59 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by jayliu1984 View Post
Sorry guys I guess I didn't give enough info, but here are the things I checked/done in bullet form:

- auto trans and yes I was coasting in gear
- tires are pumped 5-6 PSI above rated pressure (38psi)
- outside temp is about 2-5 C
- communte is 6km, and 9 possible red lights/stop sighs
- check brake by drove without breaking for a while and the rotor is cold so it is not dragging
- not sure how to check if E-brake is dragging
- not sure how to check alignment, the car has 50k KM on it and no tire change
- just switched to synthetic oil so far didn't obvserve any difference
- anchor in the trunk???? what???
- the front wheel is quite difficult to turn when I jack the car up, but let's assume brake is not dragging, what else could be the cause?

However, I must add, if I put the car in neutual physically, it will coast farrrrrrrrrrrrr.....
if it coasts far in neutral than simply put you have a lot of gear reduction and its up to you to figure if its better to use dfco or to coast in Neutral. and anchor in the trunk as items you dont need in the car that are

__________________



"The only real mistake is the one from which we learn nothing."
- Henry Ford
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Gealii For This Useful Post:
RedDevil (03-25-2013)
Reply  Post New Thread






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com