The climate change consensus extends beyond climate scientists

[freebeard]

"don'T rump"..."don'T rump"...racist, sexist, xenophobic, anti-science(sigh-ants), pro-putin & authoritarian dictator wannabee "don'T rump"...don'T rump".

Thank you for your contribution to the discourse.

[oil pan 4]

Hey maybe litesong can tell us how trump is in the back pocket of putin.
Trump has heavily sanctioned Iran and Syria which are very buddy buddy with russia.
Why isn't trump going easy on them if he is Putins pall, you know like Obama did especially with Iran?
Iran owes a lot of money to Russia and with the latest rounds of sanctions they aren't paying their bills.
If trump was Putins pal why did he lift the Ukrainian arms embargo put in place by obama?
A billion dollars worth of arms sales to Ukraine stopped the Russian take over of key strategic ground that would give them easy access to europe.
If trump was Putins buddy why would he flood a country putin is trying to take over with arms?
If putin did help trump he burned him bad, putin would have released any dirt he had on trump a long ago.

[nwgeo]

IMHO

Global warming notions came from the United Nation’s Earth Summit held in Rio de Janeiro in 1992 as part of Agenda 21 and adopted by well over one hundred nations. The global warming notion was started by well meaning caring environmental types, hi jacked by big business and governments to make $s and control people.

All under the guise of protecting the planet from man-made global warming.

“No matter if the science of global warming is all phony – climate change provides the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world.”

– Christine Stewart: Former Canadian Minister of the Environment

I could go on and on with quotes and reports about the problems of the science or lack of science of global warming, but I will not, above is just one quote. Oh, and remember in the 70s they told us global cooling was the problem.

Man made global warming is a farce if you think excess CO2 has created all this global warming. Man made CO2 is less that 1% of all the CO2 created each year.

This scientist drives by choice a 97 geo metro that gets on average 42 to 75 MPG depending on how careful I drive and the temperature outside and if the fuel is oxygenated or not or AC is used or not.

[redpoint5]

While the effects of global warming both good and bad interest me, and I acknowledge potential for very bad things to happen, the thing most concerning to me is leveraging hysteria for political reasons- regardless of which side is misusing the topic. I can easily see people wanting to use this as an excuse to push "equality of outcomes" policy which even if initially is out of well-intentioned reasons, will be disastrous to most everyone except for those in political power.

[freebeard]

nwgeo — A good first post. Welcome.

Originally Posted by oilpan4

If putin did help trump he burned him bad, putin would have released any dirt he had on trump a long ago.

The better question is why did Putin throw Hillary under the bus, after their collusion.

edit:
Episode 636 Scott Adams: .... Super Volcanoes https://youtu.be/oxlKyyccjYU?t=1499

“Super-Volcano” fears…10% of humanity will die WHEN one blows Should we ONLY pour unlimited funds into climate change? What about pandemics, planet-killing asteroids and volcanos?

It sounds like Scott Adams gets it.

[RedDevil]

We know fairly precisely how much CO2 and N2O there is in the atmosphere.
We know as precisely how fast those numbers are growing.
We know fairly well where all that is coming from.
We know exactly how much heat these molecules reflect.
We can deduct the speed at which the earth warms from this data.
And it should be fairly obvious that at these levels it is a one way lane.

But it isn't man-made global warming, no. A hoax I tell you.
What do those scientist think they know? The truth or something?
Hah, we must use more insults. That'll teach them.

[freebeard]

I may have fallen into a sarchasm, but aren't we trying to reduce the insults?

Some of us are.

[oil pan 4]

Bernie gave his 16 trillion dollar pipe dream to 0 out US carbon emissions.

Originally Posted by freebeard

The better question is why did Putin throw Hillary under the bus, after their collusion.

I bet the Clintons made some deal with russia, the Clintons got theirs and Russias end of the deal became too taxing, risked potential exposure or something, maybe they just figured "we got what we wanted and they can't touch us" and never had any intention of holding up their end.
Obama said "my administration will be the most transparent administration in history" and the Russians delivered part of that promise.

[freebeard]

Something like that.

There's a Climate Consensus angle to the Manifest Destiny Greenland story. IPOT put up a video called Icewworm. It turns out there is a fresh-water aquifer in Greenland the size of West Virginia with 154 billion tons of fresh but ancient liquid water. That oughta put a dent in the Fiji water market.

Don't forget to rewind to the intro for the dancing animals. I'm for the USofA taking it for the 3 billion in NATO dues that Denmark owes, and renaming it Kekistan.

[NeilBlanchard]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Made me look one up.

My uncle is a limnologist.