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Old 11-12-2024, 11:15 AM   #1661 (permalink)
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Above average for the 20th Century. Any idea what that gray dip is? Why is the Medieval Optimum considered optimal?
* They're still trapped where they are.
* I don't know when I can research answers for your other two questions. I have the data, but it's always a question of finding it.

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Old 11-12-2024, 11:32 AM   #1662 (permalink)
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$ 38-Trillion in climate-related losses by 2050.

I had to check this one out.
Benjamin Kunkel, in a September, 2024 'The Nation' article, mentioned the recent science journal article which reported the projection.
His interest was the fact that, if true, it would mean that the 'growth' of all GDP, of all nations on Earth, would be cancelled out each year, paying to recover from all the related effects.
Since 'capitalism' is the ultimate Ponzi scheme, requiring new 'suckers' to expand the market all the time, and 'forever', compensating for the expected losses each year, will effectively 'degrow' the world economy, with less wealth per individual available.
It's just cooked into the equation. And since we won't collectively spend anything proactively on the 'ounce of prevention,' we're certainly unlikely to deal with the 'pound of cure.'
https://www.pik-potsdam.de/en/news/l...20variability.
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How much in climate-related gains by 2050?
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How much in climate-related gains by 2050?
I'm limited to ABC, CBS, and mostly PBS. I've never experienced any reporting on ' climate-related gains.'
I'm certain that, in 'micro-scale' environments, we'd find certain so-called 'regional' benefits, only because climate scientists take those into considerations in their observations, however, on the 'global'-scale, the red ink overshadows the black ink.
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Lack of reporting on something isn't evidence of it's non-existence.

All of your sources share the same ideological possession.

... and the same argument can be said that negative consequences of global warming is experienced regionally, on a micro-scale.
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Lack of reporting on something isn't evidence of it's non-existence.

All of your sources share the same ideological possession.

... and the same argument can be said that negative consequences of global warming is experienced regionally, on a micro-scale.
Turning the table, if any 'climate benefits' were accruing, they'd be best known to the climate scientists, and already included in the calculus used to calculate GDP.
At a $38-trillion annual loss, whatever 'pluses' existed on the balance sheet, would be exponentially out-shadowed by the 'negatives.'
So 2050 would mark the 'end of growth.' From then on, the economy would continue to contract as we moved deeper into the 6th mass extinction event.
'Ockham's Razor'
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Turning the table, if any 'climate benefits' were accruing, they'd be best known to the climate scientists, and already included in the calculus used to calculate GDP.
At a $38-trillion annual loss, whatever 'pluses' existed on the balance sheet, would be exponentially out-shadowed by the 'negatives.'
So 2050 would mark the 'end of growth.' From then on, the economy would continue to contract as we moved deeper into the 6th mass extinction event.
'Ockham's Razor'
I'm saying nobody is looking for good news, because;

a. it doesn't align with any religious ideology
b. nobody pays to discover good news
c. folks would prefer to keep their jobs and social reputation rather than full tell the truth
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I'm saying nobody is looking for good news, because;

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b. nobody pays to discover good news
c. folks would prefer to keep their jobs and social reputation rather than full tell the truth
I've read MANY, peer-reviewed, scientific journal articles in SCIENCE and NATURE which discussed 'limited', 'regional' climate-related, benefits that have been observed and quantified.
We talked about those years ago.
Presently, there's stuff going down all over Earth, that's beyond your knowledge, simply because you won't 'look' outside your conformational-bias filters.
If you'd look 'outside' you might see stuff that would lead you to understand why the computer-generated predictions are trending in the direction they are.
We are the 'frog' in Al Gore's Jr.'s frying pan.

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