Hydrogen Generator Experiment

[pgfpro]

I found another site with lots of ICE Hydrogen converted vehicles.

This should put this to bed. From an emission standpoint good. From a fuel economy, performance and fuel cost hydrogen is very bad.

In fact its a joke!!!!!!!

http://avt.inl.gov/hydrogen.html

[Christ]

Originally Posted by pgfpro

I found another site with lots of ICE Hydrogen converted vehicles.

This should put this to bed. From an emission standpoint good. From a fuel economy, performance and fuel cost hydrogen is very bad.

In fact its a joke!!!!!!!

http://avt.inl.gov/hydrogen.html

Yep, until it wakes up in the middle of the night to be fed and changed.

[pgfpro]

Originally Posted by Christ

Yep, until it wakes up in the middle of the night to be fed and changed.

OMG I just woke up the family laughing.

[Christ]

Sorry!

That was a real life segue... Darius just woke up, except he doesn't get fed at night anymore. :P

[pgfpro]

I wrote down the wrong page fix it now.

Advanced Vehicle Testing Activity- Hydrogen Internal Combustion Engine Vehicles

[Christ]

ThereIfixedit!

It's not like anyone clicked the link anyway... :P Does anyone really read this stuff? Sometimes I wonder.

[atfab]

OK now, So adding HHO (HG + O2) does not alter the exhaust chemstry?
And the MAP/MAF is more important? I think not.

The ECU will see the MAP and the O2 sensor do not agree with the expected O2 in the exhaust. It will then go to the preprogramed lookup tables and go richer because there is more O2 than the MAP indicates.

Now just before you jump up and say differently, I use a scanner that allows me to monitor several sensors at once. I can assure you that with low levels of HHO (less than 1L/min) this is exactly what happens on my OBD ll S-10.

[Christ]

Originally Posted by atfab

OK now, So adding HHO (HG + O2) does not alter the exhaust chemstry?
And the MAP/MAF is more important? I think not.

The ECU will see the MAP and the O2 sensor do not agree with the expected O2 in the exhaust. It will then go to the preprogramed lookup tables and go richer because there is more O2 than the MAP indicates.

Now just before you jump up and say differently, I use a scanner that allows me to monitor several sensors at once. I can assure you that with low levels of HHO (less than 1L/min) this is exactly what happens on my OBD ll S-10.

So what is your reason for more oxygen being in your exhaust stream when there are only enough H2 and O2 molecules to recombine into water?

I'm only a chemist in theory, so that's more a question than anything, but I doubt I'll get a satisfiable answer. I never do.

[Nerys]

Grrr more annoying data. What the hell is a GGE (gasoline gallon equivalent) why is it 1.012kg H2 per GGE and how did they come up with that data. Thats all I want to know. WHERE DID THAT NUMBER COME FROM.

and remember I don't care what the H2 costs. What does the E cost to make the H2 if I make it myself. Clearly I can not make enough to run 100% hydrogen. I am fully aware that by the time I have a battery pack large enough to go 100miles on hydrogen I would probably already have a battery pack large enough to go 500 miles as a pure EV.

but what about simply IMPROVING mpg. ie just replacing SOME gasoline. off course all there tests are with gigantic massively heaving mother fraking trucks.

did it not clue in to any stupid god damned idiot at the DOE to try a fuel efficient CAR conversion. Damn it almost seems INTENTIONAL.

[Christ]

Originally Posted by Nerys

Grrr more annoying data. What the hell is a GGE (gasoline gallon equivalent) why is it 1.012kg H2 per GGE and how did they come up with that data. Thats all I want to know. WHERE DID THAT NUMBER COME FROM.

and remember I don't care what the H2 costs. What does the E cost to make the H2 if I make it myself. Clearly I can not make enough to run 100% hydrogen. I am fully aware that by the time I have a battery pack large enough to go 100miles on hydrogen I would probably already have a battery pack large enough to go 500 miles as a pure EV.

but what about simply IMPROVING mpg. ie just replacing SOME gasoline. off course all there tests are with gigantic massively heaving mother fraking trucks.

did it not clue in to any stupid god damned idiot at the DOE to try a fuel efficient CAR conversion. Damn it almost seems INTENTIONAL.

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