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Old 02-23-2019, 11:57 PM   #2961 (permalink)
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Here is a car Luigi Colani built off of a Citroen 2CV way back in 1981, requiring 1.7L of fuel to go 100 km:

1981 Colani 2CV - Studios

luigi colani: la 2cv qui consomme 1,7l/100 - http://forum.2cv-legende.com


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Here is a car Luigi Colani built off of a Citroen 2CV way back in 1981, requiring 1.7L of fuel to go 100 km:

1981 Colani 2CV - Studios
Fantastic link, perfect for a Sunday afternoon - thanks.
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Car Design History, Concept cars, Automotive advertising, auto designers and design studios in general is a goldmine.

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I was searching for something else and I found a thread from 2016 where a forum member, stealth, applied CFD modeling to the question. Here's the result:





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On the model that has 100mm of ground clearance, flat base, removing the inverted horn increased the drag from 5.4N to 5.9N, increase of almost 10%. The pictures shows that without the airflow that going through the horn and pushing up the wake, it allows the airflow from the top go down and push aside all of the other airflow.
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However what's interesting is that for the 30mm ground clearance, the drag values are near identical. I think this is because of the size of the horn and the low ground clearance makes for a rapid expansion of the airflow which has similar drag level to having a solid back end.
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It all depends on the size of the horn and the ground clearance but I think it can be used to reduce the drag if done correctly. In terms of the Cd accuracy, in terms of real world predictions, the software wouldn't be any good unless I can get some real world validation, but it's accurate and consistent for when comparing designs and their drag values.
My interpretation is that the second picture has the flat transom and the third has the bell. It appears to add order to the lower part of the wake. And with +70mm of air moving, 10% less drag.
I'm a fan of the exponential bell diffuser.
...and Luigi Colani.
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Old 02-24-2019, 10:06 PM   #2964 (permalink)
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I'm a fan of the exponential bell diffuser.
...and Luigi Colani.
And I'm a fan of the Alfa Romeo BAT cars that you linked above. The BAT7 had a Cd of 0.19!

I wish I knew how to properly shape fins like that for my GT6.
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Old 02-26-2019, 01:43 PM   #2965 (permalink)
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Gather 'round chillun's and hear the tale of Sam Barris...

https://kustomrama.com/wiki/Barris_Kustoms


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Sam's Mercury is one of the first, if not the first, chopped 1949 - 1950 Mercury, and it was built in the newer Barris shop on Atlantic. According to The Rodders Journal 29 the car was not the first chopped 1949 Mercury, since the Ayala Brothers were chopping Louie Bettancourt's 1949 Mercury at the same time, but Sam's Mercury was finished before Louie Bettancourt's Mercury.[1]
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The Aztec was one of the last full custom projects Sam worked on. A Sam continued to do some custom work in Sacramento at Barris North. But Sam wanted out of the industry, and the El Capitola was the last full custom he completed in 1960. After completing the El Capitola Sam became an insurance investigator and the fire commissioner for Charmichael.
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Instead, Barris decided the Futura was a perfect base on which to create the Batmobile. Barris hired custom builder Gene Cushenberry to modify the car, which was ready in three weeks.
So Sam did the lead sled Mercs (including the Hirohita Mercury) and George did the Munsters coach. Also:

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1951 Mercury Monterey Custom Built By George Barris. Originally built in 1956. Has since been recustomized 5 times.
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Hirohita Merc, El Capitola and The Aztec.
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The Bosley Mark I Sports Car (Road & Track, August 1955)
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Caption: Builder Bosley stands beside his dream-car-come-true. Features include Halibrand kock-off wheels, light plastic body, and a five-speed gearbox.
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1959 LeMans Coupe: Designers: Strother Macminn & John Bond
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I like the Bosley except for the side window sill line.
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And I'm a fan of the Alfa Romeo BAT cars that you linked above. The BAT7 had a Cd of 0.19!

I wish I knew how to properly shape fins like that for my GT6.
For a couple hundred-thousand dollars we could find out.

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