Perry the Honda Civic's Build Thread

[dayvon]

Originally Posted by JulianEdgar

Since you're in the aerodynamics section of the forum, I'd suggest as large an undertray as you can fit to the car.

Shoot, I meant for this to be a more general thread, and as such under Ecomodding Central. My mistake, but anyway the undertray suggestion is well appreciated. Im unsure with how to design a tray that would -under the engine- be *relatively* easy to take off without a lot of skill in bracketing and body. Would either of your books provide information on such things?

Im aware that im probably asking a lot: ease of design, ease of build, low budget, easy maintenance, durability. So if I'm in over my head i get it. Though I am considering aerodynamic mod's and testing, I again meant to have this thread under ecomodding central.

[dayvon]

Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr

What do you plan for supplementing/augmenting battery charging?

Credits to Daox https://ecomodder.com/forum/member-daox.html
Daox had the idea to: use a "smallish" ~15 V lithium pack and connect it to the starter battery (either directly or using the cars 12v plug). While maintaining enough voltage, the pack should be able to keep system voltage above that "set by the alternator, thus disabling it." Link below:

https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...ete-37923.html


I forget where I remember reading this, but I believe reading that Hondas 5th -or 6th?- VX or HX charging setup operated similarly, but without the extra battery supplement. It's alternator would charge the system when voltage dips below a low threshold and switch off after reaching a high threshold. I don't know how correctly I'm vaguely describing this, but I intend to learn of this systems mechanics and efficacy. If I can have/do this for my application, then this instead.

[freebeard]

Im unsure with how to design a tray that would -under the engine- be *relatively* easy to take off without a lot of skill in bracketing and body.

I haven't read the books but I expect they would be more about how to shape the tray.

I would consider a tab -and-slot arrangement with the tabs facing forward (to resist impacts) so any fasteners would only have to keep it from shifting forward.

...replacing the stock shocks and springs with lighter and adjustable coil-overs, swapping for alloy wheels, and using lighter cv shafts.

...will not have as much effect as the tire choice.

[deluxx]

Originally Posted by dayvon

Credits to Daox https://ecomodder.com/forum/member-daox.html
Daox had the idea to: use a "smallish" ~15 V lithium pack and connect it to the starter battery (either directly or using the cars 12v plug

Yes ! I use this, It helps!! https://www.autozone.com/test-scan-a...ck/1042041_0_0

[JulianEdgar]

Originally Posted by dayvon

Shoot, I meant for this to be a more general thread, and as such under Ecomodding Central. My mistake, but anyway the undertray suggestion is well appreciated. Im unsure with how to design a tray that would -under the engine- be *relatively* easy to take off without a lot of skill in bracketing and body. Would either of your books provide information on such things?

Im aware that im probably asking a lot: ease of design, ease of build, low budget, easy maintenance, durability. So if I'm in over my head i get it. Though I am considering aerodynamic mod's and testing, I again meant to have this thread under ecomodding central.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9WCVlWPcys

[freebeard]

So my prediction failed.

The product JulianEdgar proposes for the composite material DiBond, corresponds to other brands like Polymetal, Grimco Maxmetal and Alumapanel.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by dayvon

Credits to Daox https://ecomodder.com/forum/member-daox.html
Daox had the idea to: use a "smallish" ~15 V lithium pack and connect it to the starter battery (either directly or using the cars 12v plug). While maintaining enough voltage, the pack should be able to keep system voltage above that "set by the alternator, thus disabling it." Link below:

https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...ete-37923.html


I forget where I remember reading this, but I believe reading that Hondas 5th -or 6th?- VX or HX charging setup operated similarly, but without the extra battery supplement. It's alternator would charge the system when voltage dips below a low threshold and switch off after reaching a high threshold. I don't know how correctly I'm vaguely describing this, but I intend to learn of this systems mechanics and efficacy. If I can have/do this for my application, then this instead.

If I remember correctly, even before the VX, Honda would reduce field strength to the alternator, allowing only 12-VDC while under low manifold pressure; as this condition would signify an acceleration, passing, or hill climbing event, where access to all available power was desirable ( without dimming the headlights, etc.).

[Vman455]

Originally Posted by JulianEdgar

The first time I took a rocker panel off my Viper I was very surprised to see that it was secured on the underside (which extends ~6" toward the center of the car) with sheet metal screws. A visit to one of the forums at the time confirmed that this was factory, and apparently they had a reputation for falling out and flatting the (very expensive) rear tires. Definitely an attachment method to stay away from.

[JulianEdgar]

Originally Posted by Vman455

The first time I took a rocker panel off my Viper I was very surprised to see that it was secured on the underside (which extends ~6" toward the center of the car) with sheet metal screws. A visit to one of the forums at the time confirmed that this was factory, and apparently they had a reputation for falling out and flatting the (very expensive) rear tires. Definitely an attachment method to stay away from.

Interesting! And for people outside the US, sheet metal screws = self-tappers.