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Old 11-04-2015, 08:43 AM   #81 (permalink)
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Great to hear!

I'm curious - what's your highest trip mpg so for with your Insight?

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Old 11-04-2015, 03:02 PM   #82 (permalink)
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BD, My best 54 mile trip was from the shop to the house at 118 MPG, but I had a 10 MPH tailwind.
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Old 03-04-2016, 09:40 PM   #83 (permalink)
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Amazing project.
And, you wrote it up really well so we can benefit from your efforts.
THANK YOU!!!

I just got my '00 Gen 1 two weeks ago tomorrow. I'm just getting started on mods - today I pulled the PS fuse and taped some foam blocking into the lower grill. Both are thanks to your notes.
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Old 03-05-2016, 08:02 PM   #84 (permalink)
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Thanks, I think you will find that the Insight engine runs very cool and the key to high MPG's is doing what you can to keep the water temp above 150 degrees so it will stay in lean burn.
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Old 03-14-2016, 02:31 AM   #85 (permalink)
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Great and very nice write up on/of your Insight...
I enjoy maxing MPG's, yours would put me over the top if I ever reached them MPG's !

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Old 04-11-2016, 02:53 PM   #86 (permalink)
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What an impressive build with tons of dedication!

So 2 questions come to mind I don't think have been asked or answered yet...

1. What LEDs did you go with for each light (if anything specific)? And, are they at least as bright as stock?

2. Could you explain your driving process? Such as, throttle and RPM between shifts, etc?

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Old 04-12-2016, 08:31 PM   #87 (permalink)
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Thanks for your kind words NoD

I will be glad to show you what I have done as far as LED replacement of headlights and other bulbs, but I feel I am still on the "bleeding edge" of LED technology. I think that mostly LEDs still have a ways to go before they are affordable and reliable.

Most of my purchases were done almost a year ago, so I'm sure improvements have been made since.

Here are the headlights that I have used on all 3 of our cars (92&94 Honda VX and 2002 Honda Insight). These were the best I could find at the time with 3200 lumens per headlight of very white light. They are far superior to the OEM lights they replaced as far brightness with no complaints from oncoming traffic. These lights are kept cool with a fan that has been a reliability issue. The fans are noisy and one had to be replaced after only 2 months use. It seems the newest ones coming out use a large heat sink to cool the bulb and I think that's the way I would go If I had to replace the ones I am currently using. I bought these lights from Amazon for about $120 per set.











Below are the type bulbs I would recommend for brake, running, backup and turn signals bulbs in either red, amber or white. These bulbs cost about $30 to $35 for a pair, but are the only ones I have purchased that are twice as bright as OEM. Each one of them have a "projector" type lens on the end with very bright LEDs as well as many bright LEDs on the sides. They were plug and play on the Honda VX cars, but are too long to fit into most of the lenses of the Insight, so I had to modify the lenses in order to fit them as turn signal bulbs for both the front and rear. I bought these bulbs on Amazon and they are JDM ASAR brand.




Note that the two on the right fit the light sockets on the VXs and the one on the left fits the Insight sockets.

Here are some poor quality pictures of where I had to use a 5/8" hole saw to make a hole in the amber lenses in order to fit the too long bulbs. Also note that the front turn signal lens broke off inside the larger lens cover.
The turn signal still works fine because of the large reflector and amber colored bulb.









Here is an example of a $7 dollar bulb that looks like it would work well, but is actually not as bright as an OEM bulb.





The best source to find out which type bulbs will fit your vehicle is Super Bright LEDS, but their prices are very high an they don't always have the type bulb that is bright enough. It was hard for me to determine which bulbs are the brightest because the vendors don't always list the lumens and also the amber and red colored bulbs don't have a "lumen" rating.

Now your know why I said I feel like I am on the "bleeding edge" of this technology.

The good news is even these very bright bulbs use a fraction of the amps of the old OEM filament bulbs.

Hope this helps

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Old 04-12-2016, 09:25 PM   #88 (permalink)
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NoD, As far as my driving style, I am an extreme hypermiler, which means in addition to all of the ecomods I have made to the Insight, I use any an all techniques listed on this site.

I shift through 1st, 2nd, and 3rd (skipping 4th) never revving above 2000 rpm. I shift into 5th gear as soon as my speed reaches 30 MPH. If the water temp of the car is above 150 degrees, the Insight will go into lean burn at this point. My goal from that point is to DWL (drive with load) so that the car never leaves Lean burn as I reach my desired target speed.

I use a vacuum gauge to monitor my throttle position. My car will maintain Lean burn all the way down to 3 inches of mercury on the gauge. As I climb a hill at 3 inches, the car will maintain 70 MPG on the instantaneous mileage gauge. If I need to increase my speed to keep up with traffic, I use the MIMA toggle to apply assist from the HV battery, while still maintaining at least 70 MPG.

So my minimum MPG target is 70 MPG even while climbing hills.

On flat or downhill portions I use DWL to get the highest MPG possible while maintaining my target MPH. If the downhill is long enough I will pulse (increase speed) to be able to EOC (engine off coasting) to the bottom of the hill while still maintaining enough speed to flow with traffic.

Let me know if this is the information you needed.

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Old 04-12-2016, 11:08 PM   #89 (permalink)
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Holy freaking cow. Awesome work! Can't wait to start seeing [more] aero mods!

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Old 04-12-2016, 11:09 PM   #90 (permalink)
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Great info! I've experimented with LEDs on my Neon and found that some of the cheaper LED ones on eBay were not as bright as standard bulbs, but have found the cost for decent ones over the years have come down. Trail and error! That's for sure...

The only thing I guess I can ask for clarification on is if you only really ever coast (EoC) on the right downhills, as you mention. Sounds like no pulse and glide with leanburn is necessary. Coast to a stop sign, I'd assume. Otherwise, I think you've given great detail on both the LED and driving style questions! Greatly appreciate the feedback.

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