1965 Ford F100 Aero cap? Photoshop inside...

[BamZipPow]

Originally Posted by Sven7

Ok, I see. I do want to have an access hatch. Sometimes I sit in the bed and draw cars at car shows. And, although it looks cool on a newer truck I really want to keep it looking somewhat period correct. It appeared to be too much trouble to make the model how I really wanted. The tumblehome would increase as the topper goes back, so that the rear of it would have perhaps 60* of inward slant.

And, well, I tolerate 3D mockup for the result!

Take a look at what I did fer a hatch on my aero cap...
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...dea-15137.html

[Sven7]

BZP I'll take another look.

Originally Posted by skyking

Not a trailer, a set of tail lights and light frame that plugs into a receiver hitch. then you attach the boat tail on that.
I doubt it would enhance the chick magnet effect.

Oh, I see now. Hah. Don't hold your breath!

[Sven7]

Thanks a ton to ChazinMT for the Flow Illustrator! I threw up a few variants. Looks like the belly pan should angle up more in the rear. Maybe it can angle up to the bottom of the bumper. That would be slick.

Did a couple more renditions with longer rear pans. They seem to do some good.



Program crashed so I'll try more later.

[Sven7]

Ok my big presentation was yesterday so I had some spare time today.

Looks like the flat cap does pretty much the same thing as the aero cap. It's also 100x easier to build. Have fun.

Left:
tailgate down
tailgate up
flat cap
aero cap
teardrop

Right:
top three: w/ bellypan
bottom: w/ nosecone

[KamperBob]

Originally Posted by Sven7

Ok my big presentation was yesterday so I had some spare time today.

Looks like the flat cap does pretty much the same thing as the aero cap. It's also 100x easier to build. Have fun.

Left:
tailgate down
tailgate up
flat cap
aero cap
teardrop

Right:
top three: w/ bellypan
bottom: w/ nosecone

This may be the most promising contribution yet. For a so-called toy program (by the author not me) these pix seem to correlate reasonably well (coarse grain) to more advanced and serious work by domain experts. It would be great if the templates were available to others as a starting point for further fiddling, along with the parameters used in these runs. Thanks a bunch in advance and rock on!

[kach22i]

I'm glad that I came back to this thread, cool stuff.

I found this in the site's pick-up truck album section today.

Fuel Economy, Hypermiling, EcoModding News and Forum - EcoModder.com - aerohead's Album: Pickup images - Picture

1962 DODGE D-100 gets 4-spd overdrive, 3:50 axle, nosecone, gap-fillers, wheelskirts, and aeroshell for 21.5 mpg nearly doubling mpg

Fuel Economy, Hypermiling, EcoModding News and Forum - EcoModder.com - aerohead's Album: Pickup images - Picture

crude and primitive inflated boattail give John Gilkison's T-100 32.5mpg at 65 mph

Fuel Economy, Hypermiling, EcoModding News and Forum - EcoModder.com - aerohead's Album: Pickup images - Picture

t100 profile2

Fuel Economy, Hypermiling, EcoModding News and Forum - EcoModder.com - aerohead's Album: Pickup images - Picture

t100 hood blister

Fuel Economy, Hypermiling, EcoModding News and Forum - EcoModder.com - aerohead's Album: Pickup images - Picture

t100 rear 3/4 view

[TimJFowler]

FYI - Lots of interesting article and ideas here - streamliners and teardroppers | Hemmings Blog: Classic and collectible cars and parts

I think this old "Seagrams Diamond T" streamline truck could be a source of inspiration.



FWIW,
Tim

[Sven7]

^^^ Most of those old streamliners were more styling exercises than anything. I do like them but they have to be kept in their own place- next to the Chrysler Airflows of the world.

Originally Posted by KamperBob

This may be the most promising contribution yet. For a so-called toy program (by the author not me) these pix seem to correlate reasonably well (coarse grain) to more advanced and serious work by domain experts. It would be great if the templates were available to others as a starting point for further fiddling, along with the parameters used in these runs. Thanks a bunch in advance and rock on!

Thanks, I do plan on making the triangle shaped cap. Hopefully over winter break. If you or anyone wants a side view to work from I've got Photoshop so just let me know the year, make and model and I can do it for you. It literally takes about 3 minutes max.

Edit: Here's the thread.
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...tes-19728.html

Originally Posted by kach22i

I'm glad that I came back to this thread, cool stuff.

I found this in the site's pick-up truck album section today.

From Phil's album? I've studied those quite a bit in fact. Almost all of my source information for my projects comes from this site. Thanks to everyone for all the help!

The Dodge pickup was probably one of my biggest sources of inspiration for this particular aero cap. (Along with BZP's enthralling Toyota)

[Sven7]

We are kicked out of work for 4th of July week so I'm taking the opportunity to go back to MN to get the truck and drive it to my new place in Detroit. This means aeromodding.

I've been thinking about work vs. payoff on the 750 mile trip which, at 15mpg, will cost about $200- the same as an Amtrak ticket. If I bump it up to 16mpg (6% better) I'll save 1.8 gallons and $7. At 17mpg (13% better) I'll save 6 gallons and ~$24. Remember, I have to buy lead fuel additive as well.

I really don't think it's going to be practical to get more than 15% increase with the week I've got at home. It's also going to be carrying my Schwinn Hornet and some random crap.

Tentative plan is: half tonneau cover, deep front air dam, wheel skirts, passenger mirror delete, partial grille block(without covering any of the radiator). Also, oil/filter change, coolant flush, make sure stuff's working.

Does anyone else have some ideas? I'm looking at probably breaking even after doing these mods. The air dam will probably stay on long-term. Tonneau, maybe. Am I missing anything?

EDIT- the mirror mounts are so simple on this thing that I could probably build up a small bullet shaped convex mirror and save quite a bit of frontal area and Cd. With 1961 truck technology, I'm going to need all the help I can get.

I'll do some googling, but does anyone know if using E0 gas will be worth the money in an old vehicle like this? (352 V8)

[Frank Lee]

I've been running E10 in the '59 for 13 years now. I'm expecting valve recession but it still runs good. If/when I detect a valve issue I'll have hardened seats installed, no big deal.