2023 Toyota Prius - WOW!

[Phase]

Originally Posted by Hersbird

I actually saw a 2023 Prius up close in person this week as there is one at my apartment complex. I actually don't like it as much in person. One car that looks better in pictures IMO. It's an improvement but it's not exactly a sexy car still. It was a really dark blue. Maybe other colors would be more flattering. You couldn't really see many styling details.

Yeah. I wonder how well it’ll hold up in terms of styling considering Toyota is planning on keeping that body style till 2030. How much will it look wonky in the year 2028 driving around other future cars?

[Isaac Zachary]

I think looks get in the way of technology. Sure, we want it to be a piece of art. But art doesn't turn the wheels. I've owned some really ugly cars and they've all gotten me from point A to point B just fine.

I wonder if in the future people will complain about the looks of their "beam-me-up transporter".

[freebeard]

I think looks get in the way of technology. Sure, we want it to be a piece of art. But art doesn't turn the wheels

aerohead's 'Paris dressmakers'.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by Phase

then why do teslas have flat floors, and bigger more powerful batteries?

I have no clue, but every Tesla I saw was bigger than a Prius anyway. Not to mention it has more space to fit more batteries due to the absence of an ICE and a power-split device

[JSH]

Originally Posted by Phase

then why do teslas have flat floors, and bigger more powerful batteries?

Tesla (and all modern EVs) have water cooled or heated batteries to keep them just at the right temperature. Most hybrids have air-cooled batteries and heat is the primary enemy.

Hybrids also have to vent heat from the engine, catalytic converter and the rest of the exhaust system.

[Phase]

Originally Posted by JSH

Tesla (and all modern EVs) have water cooled or heated batteries to keep them just at the right temperature. Most hybrids have air-cooled batteries and heat is the primary enemy.

Hybrids also have to vent heat from the engine, catalytic converter and the rest of the exhaust system.

so should i not cover up my cat converter with a flat floor? dont most aero modders still cover the bottom?

[Isaac Zachary]

Originally Posted by Phase

so should i not cover up my cat converter with a flat floor? dont most aero modders still cover the bottom?

In some cases you could cover the catalytic converter and have zero problems. In some cases you may actually benefit from even insulating the catalytic converter. It all depends on how and where you drive. The closer you can keep it in the middle of its working temperature the better.

But then you could have a teenager in Arizona that will want to push the car to its limits. So you need enough cooling for situations like that. Otherwise there will be people ruining their catalytic conveter because they didn't baby it in hot weather.

[freebeard]

I thought I was behind a new Prius, but turns out (when I passed it ) it was a fifth-generation Supra.


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Supra#Fifth_generation_(J29/DB;_2019)

Are the tail lights similar?

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by freebeard

I thought I was behind a new Prius, but turns out (when I passed it ) it was a fifth-generation Supra.


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Supra#Fifth_generation_(J29/DB;_2019)

Are the tail lights similar?

Sports cars are the perfect things to electrify. Nobody is taking a Supra on a 1,000 road trip. If it only gets used locally, perfect thing to be electric.

[Phase]

Originally Posted by Isaac Zachary

In some cases you could cover the catalytic converter and have zero problems. In some cases you may actually benefit from even insulating the catalytic converter. It all depends on how and where you drive. The closer you can keep it in the middle of its working temperature the better.

But then you could have a teenager in Arizona that will want to push the car to its limits. So you need enough cooling for situations like that. Otherwise there will be people ruining their catalytic conveter because they didn't baby it in hot weather.

sadly my cat converter is failing anyways. may only have a year left of life on my ioniq