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Old 05-19-2012, 02:34 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I'm thinking the WAI may be difficult to do- and I dont know if the MAF meter will respond to it?

Sentra-SER did a pretty thorough WAI test on his MAF equipped car. The WAI did not produce a benefit for him. It has seemed to help MAP-only cars by reducing pumping losses. Search for his WAI test and you can see his full results.

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Old 05-21-2012, 07:47 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Sentra-SER did a pretty thorough WAI test on his MAF equipped car. The WAI did not produce a benefit for him. It has seemed to help MAP-only cars by reducing pumping losses. Search for his WAI test and you can see his full results.
Thanks for that- I seems to remember reading that thread.

I'll leave it just now then, as thats where the LPG enters, so changes could be more complex
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Old 06-01-2012, 07:07 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Got a few thousand miles under the belt of the car now..

Hopefully this weekend (4 days!) will see the car serviced, cleaned and possibly grill blocked/ front bellypan
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Old 08-28-2012, 06:54 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Aero help/suggestions?

been playing with the template (internet sourced picture of car)





now the car has passed its MOT, and will be about for the next year, its time to mod!

Initial thoughts (based around what I have available at the moment)

1. Upper/Lower Grille block

2. Front undertray- engine bay is currently open

3. Lower the front, as car is currently nose high

4. Fit smaller mirrors (m3 style)

5. Remove Roof Rails

6. Centre belly pan


Pics of the car/areas to improve

Front arch Gap (already slightly reduced by fitting correct 205/55/16 tyres)


Roof Rails/Skirts and rear bumpers


Engine Bay


Upper Grille


Lower Grille
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Old 08-28-2012, 08:23 PM   #15 (permalink)
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been playing with the template (internet sourced picture of car)





now the car has passed its MOT, and will be about for the next year, its time to mod!

Initial thoughts (based around what I have available at the moment)

1. Upper/Lower Grille block

2. Front undertray- engine bay is currently open

3. Lower the front, as car is currently nose high

4. Fit smaller mirrors (m3 style)

5. Remove Roof Rails

6. Centre belly pan
Hello! The template is not lined up properly yet. Find the highest point in the roof line and match it to the template's high point. This might mean that the template "line" will track through your cars aft roofline.

Undertrays get wide support here. Mirror deletes are more debatable. Grill blocks are good (keep an eye on temps. Make sure your early efforts at mods are completely reversible... you'll want a redo sometimes and you don't want to have drill holes all over the body!
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Old 08-28-2012, 09:01 PM   #16 (permalink)
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looks like a good list, how about smooth wheel covers?
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Lovely condition. Seems to be a good clean straight one. Congrats on a good find. :-)
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Hello! The template is not lined up properly yet. Find the highest point in the roof line and match it to the template's high point.
The roof looks rather flat on the Touring, so the template would go almost to the very end of the roof.

If the template intersects with the actual roof line, move the template's high spot aft to this intersection, start again, but compensate for the possible height difference.
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Hello! The template is not lined up properly yet. Find the highest point in the roof line and match it to the template's high point. This might mean that the template "line" will track through your cars aft roofline.
Hi, thanks for your useful input!

As euromodder alludes to, the touring roofline is basically flat, and provides carrying capacity I find useful

therefore I tried to line up the template to retain the space, but look at how the template would indicate possible rear treatment for better aero..does that make sense?

Here's another photo, I'd be interested to see where you'd position the template- please have a go




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Undertrays get wide support here. Mirror deletes are more debatable. Grill blocks are good (keep an eye on temps. Make sure your early efforts at mods are completely reversible... you'll want a redo sometimes and you don't want to have drill holes all over the body!
I have the undertray off an e46 at my unit that I can butcher a bit to make it fit..

I wouldnt be deleting the miirors, jsut trying to reduce the frontal area a touch.

I'm hearing you re the " reversible"- the upper grills pull out easily-so even when blocked, I can clear them quickly
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Old 08-29-2012, 07:28 AM   #20 (permalink)
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looks like a good list, how about smooth wheel covers?
Thanks!

I dont know re the wheel covers- the current wheels are defintely very open, and must cause some turbulence..however, fiting covers would draw attention to the visible change..unless I can hunt down some BMW hubcaps

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Lovely condition. Seems to be a good clean straight one. Congrats on a good find. :-)
thanks, alas, the pictures make it look better than it is..

The engine and interior are in fine fettle..I've just had to change the Dual Mass flywheel as it was shot after 107k miles.

Bodywise its had more hits than the beetles and there's a rust scab on most every panel- I'm currently trying to repair these and get it looking a bit more presentable so i can in style

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