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Old 07-08-2019, 02:58 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Nice as a stunt.

Now, let’s load the vehicle according to design and see how things go.

The wusses can use the GVWR as limit, and the hairy-chested can use the axle/tire/wheel limits.

Ton Miles Per Gallon

as that’s a valid concept.

Shuffling an individual around bereft of gear or goods lacks meaning. Just “means” he does it with the air conditioning a motorcycle lacks. But he can’t account for unused capacity re empty seats and cargo space. IOW, it’s no test.

Make the test[s] real.

Vehicle scaled weight against published shipping weight (curb weight) for any test.

Loaded to limit, is the real FE test.

66-75% capacity for regular driving as the baseline.

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Do I get to use my 18-wheeler for that? Because ton-mpg makes this thing look like a star, and I drive waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more miles in this than in any car...

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Old 07-08-2019, 06:38 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Endless money pit - '07 Toyota Yaris
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Thanks man, really it’s just pulse and glide and reducing aero drag and rolling resistance wherever possible... engine size doesn’t seem to matter much?
Is this at 50-40 mph pulse and eoc?
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Old 07-08-2019, 02:07 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I'm after it! Just recorded a 62 mpg tank that averaged about 72 in the last 200 miles because I started hypermiling the car more aggressively. Probably would have been a 58 or 59 mpg tank. Just refilled, now I have my wheel well covers back, and this is gonna be my 70 mpg tank!
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Old 07-08-2019, 03:38 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Is this at 50-40 mph pulse and eoc?
Leg 1 was some low speed between lights and then 55-40 EOC

Leg 2 was 40-30 EOC

Leg 3 was 55-40 EOC and then some in town at the end...
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Old 07-08-2019, 03:52 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Leg 1 was some low speed between lights and then 55-40 EOC

Leg 2 was 40-30 EOC

Leg 3 was 55-40 EOC and then some in town at the end...
Thanks for posting back.
How do you keep battery voltage up?
Mine drops to 12.3v if i eoc too much with the headlights on
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Old 07-08-2019, 04:19 PM   #36 (permalink)
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^ when I do EOC I bump start the car 90% of the time to avoid further 12V drain from engaging the starter. LED headlights cut headlight draw in half. I still see 12.3v every now and then, and sometimes 12.2v, but most of the time it never goes below 12.5v.

A deep cycle battery, either AGM, lithium or maybe a supercap setup, is in the works when my almost new 12V goes bad down the road.
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Old 07-08-2019, 05:18 PM   #37 (permalink)
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^ same. My FLA battery is fairly new and hasn’t had even the slightest issue starting the car, and I don’t consistently hypermile enough to cause a consistent battery drain... admittedly since I left my day job and am getting divorced again I’ve not always felt up to it lol
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Old 07-08-2019, 06:12 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Hi,LEDs are technically illegal in the uk
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I was thinking adding a solar panel, to charge the battery just after I park the car, but they don't work during the night
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Old 07-08-2019, 11:26 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Has to be this year?
https://ecomodder.com/forum/em-fuel-...vehicleid=3248
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Old 07-08-2019, 11:45 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Nope, but it's more fun if it is between now and the end of summer in late September. I'll be doing it a second time (first was in 2014).

You're still really close at 67 or 68 mpg. Go for legend!

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