06-01-2008, 11:20 PM
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If he's going to do an A-B-A test, the wind shouldn't play much factor.
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You can't compare tank to tank. Who goes exactly the same number of miles on the exact same route under the exact same conditions from tank to tank? Can't be done unless he's driving indoors.
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06-01-2008, 11:22 PM
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^I think I know waht you are talking about. In addition to the mentioned, he also soaked some rubber hoses and other parts in a strong percentage of Acetone and did a before and after finding that there wasn't any wear. I don't remember too clearly because this is from a while ago (one of those bored at 2 in the morning cuz cant goto sleep researches). But there are also reports of fuel injectors crapping out. But I would like to see what happens to the OP's testing or anyone else that does an A-B-A-B sort of testing as well as an prolonged usage testing.
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06-01-2008, 11:37 PM
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Not to sound like an a$$ hole, but an A-B-A test IS an average of tanks of fuel under many varying conditions. I drive the exact same miles to and from work, the only change is usually weather, and traffic, which is averaged throughout the tanks of fuel. Also here's the latest link found by Louis LaPointe....
http://www.pureenergysystems.com/new...00069_Acetone/
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06-01-2008, 11:42 PM
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Not to sound like an a$$ hole, but an A-B-A test IS an average of tanks of fuel under many varying conditions. I drive the exact same miles to and from work, the only change is usually weather, and traffic, which is averaged throughout the tanks of fuel. Also here's the latest link found by Louis LaPointe....
http://www.pureenergysystems.com/new...00069_Acetone/
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I have to respectfully disagree. Accurate A-B-A testing is done with instrumentation done in the same day with a minimum of weather deviations and not tank to tank testing.
One of the reasons testing fuel and oil additives is almost impossible for the average bear. Unless the increase is so large it blows away the normal FE static.
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06-01-2008, 11:47 PM
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Wind is a huge factor out here where the land is flat and theres huge fields of nothing to stop it.
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06-01-2008, 11:58 PM
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Don't get me wrong, I agree that definately you need a guaged A-B-A test, but for basic ecopimps like me, My tests consit of "tank-flush-tank-flush tank" testing. "A" being the first non-modified, "B" being modified, "A" being non-modified. The variables are infinite, but I always seem to get improvement when testing a modification throughout these tanks of fuel.
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06-02-2008, 06:09 PM
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Well either way .. take "My" testing with a grain of salt, my wife is the typical grocery getter with the baby and all the gear that goes with it. She makes 1 80 mile round trip drive a week and does not deviate from her driving style. Furthermore our weather for the time being has remained stable, so I doubt that a 4000lb + vehicle will show such a large swing in mileage by wind. Especially when for the past year this vehicle has consistently yielded 18.5 - 19.0 mpg. I started a log for her and asked to collect the info so I can start helping her. I told her to drive normal this whole month to get a realistic average for the vehicle. She and it has not dissapointed me yet.
***Update*** I snuck into the car last night and checked the onboard mpg compute the vehicle has and to my surprise it was reading 22.9 @ the 3/4 tank mark. So for now it is looking promising. More to come by Wednesday.
BTW, she doesn't know the car has one .. yeah it's silly, but true ...
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06-02-2008, 06:41 PM
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3 mpg seems to be the standard gain with acetone. I had some work buddies try it, and they gained around 3mpg as well (with the right mix)
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06-02-2008, 06:53 PM
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That actually sounds about right, it's what I got in the Vibe with 1mL per gallon and not until now am I experimenting with the mix. But if I do not see a marked improvement with the 2mL per gallon mix, then a 3mpg boost for next to nothing is awesome ...
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06-02-2008, 07:47 PM
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just be careful with a newer vehicle, I've heard varying things... I use it in all my older vehicles, the newest being a 1999..... give the link a good read and make your judgements from there http://www.pureenergysystems.com/new...00069_Acetone/
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