April 15, 2016: Watkins Glen Green Grand Prix

[redneck]

Round trip? 6 hours one way my friend...Redneck was 8+(?) one way...you can do it[next year]!

12 h 28 min (790.9 mi) - one way... Driver...



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[brucepick]

I can't believe that neither I nor any other Ecomodder at the GGP has posted this yet here: We did extremely well in the 2016 Green Grand Prix.

To the best of my knowledge, every EcoModder who participated in the competition won AT LEAST one award. I doubt that any participating school or commercially sponsored team did as well. We really owe ourselves a bunch of mutual slaps on the back. I mean, really!

Here's my report, based on my recollection of the awards given out at the post event dinner. Please, if I've missed any awards, or if I'm mis-stating anything here, please reply either here or by PM, and I'll do my best to straighten it up in this post. And please remember to give me your car type, screen name and real name, if I've missed you in this writeup. I can't match them up if I'm not told!

Mike Loveland - mloveland78 -1993 Civic VX - First in Class for MPG
Steven - UltArc - Aero Modded Mustang V6 - First in Class for mpg
Matt Hooler - DrGreenthumb - First in Class for MPG (stock 3 cyl hybrid, Insight)
Robert Acevedo - sheepdog 44 - navigated for Steve/UltArc
Not-So-Crazy Jerry - changzuki - Centurion/'74 FIAT X1/9, tiny diesel:
- Most Innovative Vehicle award.
- I think Jerry also won top mpg in his class?
Dave - redneck - 2001 Dodge 3500 modded I-6 Cummins diesel dually flatbed truck - I swear that flatbed has to be 8 feet across:
- First in Class for mpg.
- Dave also did crucial work on Steve's AeroStang just prior to the competition.
Bruce Pick, Steve P. navigating - brucepick - 2000 Honda Insight, modded:
- First in Class for mpg
- Third place overall for TSD road rally
Juha Cantori - Gasoline Fumes - didn't drive this year. Took soon-to-be award winning photos of the GGP.

[MetroMPG]

Congrats, guys!

The weather must have been perfect, too. Sorry I missed it this year.

[UltArc]

Rank by MPG. Unfortunately, E comes before U...

Rank Model Year MPG Fuel
1 Prius 2005 285.95 Electric
2 Coda 2012 218.85 Electric
3 Urba Centurion* 1970? 204.77 Diesel
4 Model S 2015? 165.78 Electric
5 Civic* 1993 98.7 Gas
6 Jetta 2000 92.42 Diesel
7 Insight* 2000 87.6 Hybrid
8 Prius 2016 82 Hybrid
9 Insight* 2000 78.9 Hybrid
10 Prius 2016 76.8 Hybrid
11 Prius 2016 74.7 Hybrid
12 Prius 2012 68 Hybrid
13 Beetle 2001 64.34 Diesel
14 Prius 2009 63.8 Hybrid
15 Prius 2002 63.2 Hybrid
16 Prius 2011 61.1 Hybrid
17 Prius 2006 59.7 Hybrid
18 328D 2014 56 Diesel
19 Civic 2015 54.9 Hybrid
20 Metro 1991 54.83 Gas
21 Mustang* 2012 54.83 Gas
22 Prius 2005 53.4 Hybrid
23 Prius 2009 52.1 Hybrid
24 Volt 2012 49.35 Hybrid
25 Miata 1991 44.86 Gas
26 Kia? 2016 44.5 Gas
27 Miata 2012 43.5 Gas
28 RAV4 2016 42.8 Hybrid
29 HHR 2007 42.7 Gas
30 Jetta 2005 38.8 Gas
31 FRS 2013 36.8 Gas
32 BRZ 2013 34.4 Gas
33 Prelude 1990 32.9 Gas
34 Golf 1986 30.84 Gas
35 ES 2005 29.91 Gas
36 Freestyle 2005 27.5 Gas
37 Ram 2006 26.5 Diesel
38 Ram* 2001 22.67 Diesel
39 Ranger 2005 22.43 Gas
40 Astrovan 1990 0 Vegetable?
41 PU (Ford) 1933 0 Propane
42 Van (Chevy) 2013 0 Unknown
43 M3 1999 0 Gas (37.90*)

Electric MPG is based on 33.7 KwHs for one gallon, and 99.8 miles traveled. Asterisks represent our team- other than the M3, which apparently had some Tom Foolery going on.

Edit: Wow, all that fricken work I did and it turned out like this...sorry guys!

[Joggernot]

Definitely no apology needed or wanted. You did great! Glad you made the great effort and represented Ecomodder so admirably.

[brucepick]

In UltArc's master list above -
#7 Insight 2000 87.6 Hybrid - was driven by Matt Hooler; listed on the GGP data sheet as an EcoModder. Matt just seems to be pretty quiet here. I don't know his EM screen name.

[sheepdog 44]

Concerning car#1 the so called rolling battery Prius with the decal on the back claiming it gets "800 mpg!" that got 285.95mpge at the GGP.

So when Bob announced the #1 Prius, he said it used 3/4 of a gallon of gas (25.275kwh equivalent) and 11.7kwh from the battery pack at 36.9kwh total energy consumption over 99.8 miles. 36.9kwh is equivalent to 1.1 gallons of gas for a final score of 90.72 mpge.

Well maybe i misheard and he only used 1/4 of a gallon of gas? That would be equivalent to 8.425kwh from gas + 11.7kwh from battery = 20.125kwh total. Convert to gasoline .597 gallons equivalent for a final score of 167.16mpge.

So how did he get 285.95mpge over 99.8 miles? That would require exactly 0.349 of a gallon of gas which is equivalent to 11.7kwh! Wait, 11.7kwh is exactly the amount announced he used solely from the battery! Ergo 285.95mpge is a complete BS number that IGNORES all gasoline used.

If 285.95mpge at 45mph average would propel a pure electric vehicle to mass adoption across the country, getting 2.5X the efficiency of the city rating of a Nissan Leaf, instantly ending our dependence on fossil fuels! Then you know something just doesn't add up.

According to official numbers he used .16 gallons of gas (5.392kwh) + 15.84kwh from the battery = 21.232kwh (.63 gallons of gas equivalent) total over 99.8 miles for a final score of 158.4mpge.

[sheepdog 44]

Matt Hooler is Drgreenthumb on here. 7 Insight 2000 87.6 Hybrid

[mloveland78]

I was there behind this prius when they refilled at tops. He did use 0.7 some gallons at the event. Sheepdog's estimate of 90.72 is correct.

[redneck]

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I had a great time at the GGP and enjoyed meeting everyone.

I was however slightly surprised with my results.

I figured a last place finish was likely since I was driving a whale.

I was wrong...

I was denied that title by a modded 2005 V-6 gas Ford Ranger that posted 22.43 mpg for the track event.

The Dodge truck I was driving weighed 5000 pounds more than the Ford Ranger, yet it somehow achieved 22.67 mpg at the event.

A scant .24 mpg better...

So much for the coveted last place finish.

As Maxwell Smart would say "Missed it by that much".


The other surprising thing was that they presented me with an award for "Best in class".

Why was I surprised...???

Could it have been the vehicle...???

Driving skill...???

MPG...???

Or for some other merit...???

Well, no...


It"s because I was the only one in that class... Lol...



However, getting something is always better than nothing...

Besides, it will look good hanging in the shop.




If your thinking of attending the next GGP .

Just do it.

You won't regret it...




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