Arcimoto, the real thing? ($12k tandem EV trike, 70/130 mi. range)

[redpoint5]

I think the shorts will be fine. As I keep saying, there's no future in bending metal into vehicle-shaped objects. Someone mentioned FUV is thinking of autonomous driving in the future... now there could be money there, but I don't see how they'd compete at this stage in the game against the likes of Google, GM, and Tesla. Heck, Uber sold their interest in autonomous driving and that was their only hope of profitability.

[Snax]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

I think the shorts will be fine. As I keep saying, there's no future in bending metal into vehicle-shaped objects. Someone mentioned FUV is thinking of autonomous driving in the future... now there could be money there, but I don't see how they'd compete at this stage in the game against the likes of Google, GM, and Tesla. Heck, Uber sold their interest in autonomous driving and that was their only hope of profitability.

I think like most technology, the capabilities to handle that will both improve and come down in price to implement it. Realistically, they are very simple systems mechanically, so it is really all about sensing and processing the environment. I envision that being a plug and play kind of solution for the auto industry ultimately, much like the company that manufactures the onboard charger hardware for numerous brands.

I would agree that it's a bit optimistic at this point to be pushing the idea for FUV, but it will likely become very common industry-wide within the next 5-10 years.

[Hersbird]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

I think the shorts will be fine. As I keep saying, there's no future in bending metal into vehicle-shaped objects. Someone mentioned FUV is thinking of autonomous driving in the future... now there could be money there, but I don't see how they'd compete at this stage in the game against the likes of Google, GM, and Tesla. Heck, Uber sold their interest in autonomous driving and that was their only hope of profitability.

I disagree. For 200 years personal freedom of travel and movement has been a major part of being American. That is not changing in the next 50 years, if anything near term a restructuring of work at home will increase it not decrease it. People are going to exit the cities now faster than they fill them. People are going to spread out more.

I also think the autonomous driving isn't worth investing in especially by a small company. Let others figure it out and then it will be easy to adapt and add if there is a demand.

[freebeard]

Let others figure it out and then it will be easy to adapt and add if there is a demand.

That appears to be Mark F.'s strategy -- autonomous ready. I'm not clear on how autonomous steering works with handlebars. I'll ask on Saturday.

[RedDevil]

FUV went up in the stock market again today.
My handful of shares are now looking like a sound investment

[freebeard]

I saw a report that the short squeezers have moved on to a different EV company. I forget who (it started with an 'F', not Fisker?).

OTOH Motley Fool puts it to the price of gasoline. www.fool.com/investing/2021/06/03/why-fisker-arcimoto-and-electrameccanica-vehicles/

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by Hersbird

I also think the autonomous driving isn't worth investing in especially by a small company. Let others figure it out and then it will be easy to adapt and add if there is a demand.

There might be some demand, just like some folks now prefer to use Uber or some other app instead of driving. Eventually it may serve as a convenience on certain situations, but I wouldn't hold my breath for driving to become obsolete at all.

[freebeard]

Geohot.

After jailbreaking iPhones, he moved on to an autonomous system that learns from and mimics the driver.

reason.com/: George Hotz: Fully Self-Driving Cars Are a 'Scam' and Silicon Valley 'Needs To Die'
The hacking wunderkind thinks Big Tech's approach won't work. He built a $999 autonomous driving system that runs on a smartphone.

Acritmotoe? Archimotii? Arcimotoses? have a smart phone cradle standard.

[freebeard]

I was there. I wrangled an invite to see the Future Pod Mark Frohnmayer claims to have in his back yard.




That's maybe one quarter of their stockpile. I found a better angle later, but the camera battery said no.



That's his mom.

The rental location is way down at the end of Blair street. They share a parking lot with Ninkasi Brewery. There was Free Beer.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Doesn't look so much wider than some scooters which were converted into reverse-trikes for paraplegic riders in my country.