Best MPG without EOC and P&G ??

[abently]

Hi Guys n Gals,

I am curious as to what MPG's you guys are able to achieve without the usual EOC (and stop lights) & P&G ?

I am struggling to get under 5.5l/100km in a 1.3L DOHC weighing 900Kg with me in it, and am wondering if that is average, great or unbelievable ?

I am planning on EOC sometime in the future, once I can make it electronic, aka Prius hands off style would be nice, but till then I would like to see how low I can go and have the feeling that this MPG is potentially only average.

The engine has a few miles on it (140k), but seems mechanically A1. Though it does need a new clutch but I'm not expecting that to change my MPG figures much if anything?

I have a wideband on it and other than being in closed loop for 95% of the time, it barely goes below 14:1 with my driving style. I know that doesn't mean much given load and bsfc etc..

Anyway, feel free to post up some non EOC and P&G numbers?

I'm curious as to whether or not I should be doing better given the car I have?

[skyl4rk]

I am doing just under 40 mpg (about 6 l/km) in a 1.4 l Nissan Versa. Lately my driving style has been to coast to stops idling in neutral and occasionally coasting down hills, idling in neutral. I have done aggressive engine off coasting in the past but not in the past few tanks.

i have a grill block and a modest spoiler.

At this point, an oil heater would probably give me good results, and I want to build another boattail, which is very effective.

It sounds like you are doing a good job with 5.5 l/km. Does your vehicle have a US rating? Generally we compare our results to the US EPA rating, it allows comparing mods and driving techniques to an average rating.

[abently]

No EPA rating only an ADR rating of 6.6l/100km for City driving and 4.8L/100km for Highway, which I can put up the test procedure if someone is interested. Done on a dyno with correction factors applied after.

Can't wait to fit my MPGuino to see if I can really get 4.8L/100km on the highway.....

[SentraSE-R]

My last two vacation rentals were automatic transmission cars that I couldn't EOC in. I did P&G them, but have no idea whether it helped or hurt. I averaged close to 5.5l/100km in them (42 mpg in the Toyota Yaris with 1.5 l engine and 43.7 mpg in the Kia Rio with 1.6 l engine). Since I was doing a lot of long distance, warm engine highway driving, I'm sure my mpg would have been worse if I'd mixed in much city driving. I think you're probably doing pretty well to get 5.5l/100km without EOC or P&G. The only other thing I did for hypermiling was to keep my top speed around 90 km/hr (55 mph).

[5EFE]

I've done 57.51 with the engine running the whole time, no pulse and glide in my 1997 Tercel, about 40.1 in a 2010 Ford Fusion rental and a not very impressive 32.8 in a 2005 Dodge Stratus.

[euromodder]

Originally Posted by abently

I am struggling to get under 5.5l/100km in a 1.3L DOHC weighing 900Kg with me in it, and am wondering if that is average, great or unbelievable ?

It's certainly not too shabby for a petrol engine
But given the weight and displacement of the car, it can get better

Though it does need a new clutch but I'm not expecting that to change my MPG figures much if anything?

If it's worn and slipping, it will affect your mileage.


Which hypermiling tricks are you applying already ?
100+ Hypermiling / ecodriving tips & tactics for better mpg - EcoModder.com

[RobertSmalls]

Why wouldn't I EOC? It saves loads of gas around town. But to answer your question, 78mpg @ 69mph on the interstate on a hot day with no A/C and the windows up. I've also done > 100mpg segments on the highway, but of course I'll EOC down the offramps, and extensively on my way to the highway.

[abently]

Originally Posted by 5EFE

I've done 57.51 with the engine running the whole time, no pulse and glide in my 1997 Tercel, about 40.1 in a 2010 Ford Fusion rental and a not very impressive 32.8 in a 2005 Dodge Stratus.

Feel free to explain how? Especially in a petrol car with more displacement and weight?

I'm running the baby 4E-FE..

Even if I can achieve the highway rating of this thing, that's only 49 MPG....

[abently]

Originally Posted by euromodder

Which hypermiling tricks are you applying already ?
100+ Hypermiling / ecodriving tips & tactics for better mpg - EcoModder.com

Apart from EOC and P&G there isn't much I already don't do from that list....

I think the MPGuino, once calibrated, will help me greatly so we'll see.

[Weather Spotter]

In my matrix, before my big mod add on in Aug I could get 42-43 MPG. Now I can get 44-46. If I work on it I have gotten 50