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Old 05-28-2008, 03:21 PM   #11 (permalink)
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your tell me you met and saw this truck and owner and only got one pic with no details!!!

You got to be holding out?!
Brett's real busy,it was his day off, had errands to run,and we'd burned a lot of his day at breakfast.I've posted more current photos of the T-100 over at maxmpg in the photos section,including the tuft-testing photos captured by my road-warrior friends.I apologize if I haven't mentioned that.Metrompg is going to help move some of these images over as time permits,however,he has a real life too,and spare time can become a rare commodity.We got 3-inches of rain in about ten minutes yesterday and my jobsite is drying out,and is only reason I'm free to look at internet today.Anyway,there's no big conspiracy over the T-100.If anyone wants to look over at maxmpg,I have a lot of posts about the truck and most current mods.The last two testing runs were foiled by high winds and I've suspended activity on the T-100 until I can prepare more shop space.The weather is trying to reclaim what I.ve done,and I need "inside" space to bring things to completion.

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Old 06-02-2008, 06:11 AM   #12 (permalink)
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didn't work if thats the address..

what were the mods made to the airdam? any pictures of that?
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:58 PM   #14 (permalink)
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didn't work if thats the address..

what were the mods made to the airdam? any pictures of that?
Brett had the airdam pretty low.CAR and DRIVER got away with 3-inches of ground clearance with "Crisis-Fighter-Pinto",however we think Brett's airdam was low enough that the added sectional area was canceling out any benefits.Anyway,he cut it back some,even with the bottom of the suspension,and the mpg came back.As to maxmpg,just go to GOOGLE and type it in.When the page comes up,click on the very first entry.That should get you in.The photos of the trashcan nose and tuft-testing may be under "phrekna" at the PHOTOS section.
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the max mpg yahoo group is dead. Where are the pictures of the aero t100 now?
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the max mpg yahoo group is dead. Where are the pictures of the aero t100 now?
miket,there is a fairly recent truck in the Aerodynamic-Streamlining-Template:Part-C,page 4.
I'll attempt a link to it:
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...-c-9287-4.html
the photo is at second bottom post on page 4

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wow thats quite an extension. How can you turn with the fairing covering the front wheels?

Do you have any pics of the undertray?

I bought Huchos book but havent had time to read it yet.

I cant use a cap that slopes down because of storgage space. Maybe an inflatable kamm back for highway speeds.
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miket,there is a fairly recent truck in the Aerodynamic-Streamlining-Template:Part-C,page 4.
I'll attempt a link to it:
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...-c-9287-4.html
the photo is at second bottom post on page 4
The forum does crazy things with content. Here's a stab at the actual pic.



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Old 06-21-2010, 06:28 PM   #19 (permalink)
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wow thats quite an extension. How can you turn with the fairing covering the front wheels?

Do you have any pics of the undertray?

I bought Huchos book but havent had time to read it yet.

I cant use a cap that slopes down because of storgage space. Maybe an inflatable kamm back for highway speeds.
miket,the full skirt was for proof of concept.It was 'fixed' and did limit the wheels range of motion,although not much of a problem.
The 'final' skirts will attach to pantograph/hinged parallelogram mechanism which allows the tire sidewall to engage inline skate rollers attached to the mechanism,swinging it out and up to clear the 'steering' wheel,then stow flush against the fender when centered.
As to the belly,if you'll GOOGLE Phil Knox,it should get you to Jessica Savage' EV World article back in 2005.I think the bellypan photos are there.
The inflatable tail will work for you.Mine uses a 12-VDC fan from a Westfalia VW Campmobile.The fabric used on inflatable advertising would be ideal.Ripstop nylon from a fabric store will do.Seam sealer for tents to seal stitching.Do not use expandable Naughehyde,it will not hold a shape under pressure.I learned that one the hard way!
It's nice to mock up something at full-scale from which you can lay out and tailor the fabric sections.Top-stitch is good,a French seam better.
Interior lacing may be necessary to 'hold' the envelope form.You'll just have to see.
If everything is attached to an airtight shallow box,the box can be attached in any number of ways.
My prototype was made with a discarded bean-bag chair.
In HUCHO's book you should find a great inflatable design by Fachsenfeld,done for Omnibus at FKFS around 1936.
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Phil, had I known your location when I lived in Texas, I'd have tried to arrange a meeting with you on the drive back to St. Louis...


Oh well.

That T100 is a piece of work. I can't wait to see what you do with the Ghia...

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