Build back better proposes 6 billion to electrify post office fleet 70%

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by Hersbird

I am very happy the Gladiator is just a Wrangler with a bed.

One aspect that caught my attention is that it seems to be the last mid-size truck with solid axles all-around. AFAIK the Y61 Nissan Patrol still available on some countries, including a single-cab pick-up version, has solid axles too, yet it's closer in size to a half-ton.

[redpoint5]

Electric Garbage Truck Story. I might live to see the day.

https://electrek.co/2023/08/31/we-dr...ct_source=pitc

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

Electric Garbage Truck Story. I might live to see the day.

Considering landfills are often quite far from the largest city in the region, hybrid garbage trucks relying on a CNG fuel system also able to run on biomethane generated at a landfill would make more sense than going all-electric.

[Piotrsko]

Here in Reno everything goes to a transfer station and gets reloaded onto a drop deck extra capacity trailer, like those used in the oil fields for makeup water. Furthest roundtrip is 50 miles between transfer station and dump which seems to be a common distance in my experiences. So figure a 3 hour trip to and from dump including the dump of contents would make the pickup vehicle useless for a large portion of the day in most municipalities. They stopped dumping from the pick up vehicle before I left the small town I lived in 20 years ago and that dump was only 10 miles out.

Pretty sure we have one trial electric powered truck. Really stealthy except for the clunk of trashcans being emptied and the air brakes moaning or the massive signs proclaiming electric powered. Supposed to have high efficiency regen brakes but I haven't talked to the driver.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Same thing is done here. But since Scania is making trucks with dedicated CNG engines in Brazil, it would still make sense to use biomethane in the larger trucks that haul from the transfer station to the landfill.

[Hersbird]

Originally Posted by Piotrsko

Here in Reno everything goes to a transfer station and gets reloaded onto a drop deck extra capacity trailer, like those used in the oil fields for makeup water. Furthest roundtrip is 50 miles between transfer station and dump which seems to be a common distance in my experiences. So figure a 3 hour trip to and from dump including the dump of contents would make the pickup vehicle useless for a large portion of the day in most municipalities. They stopped dumping from the pick up vehicle before I left the small town I lived in 20 years ago and that dump was only 10 miles out.

Pretty sure we have one trial electric powered truck. Really stealthy except for the clunk of trashcans being emptied and the air brakes moaning or the massive signs proclaiming electric powered. Supposed to have high efficiency regen brakes but I haven't talked to the driver.

I don't know why but transfer stations kind of piss me off on some level. Like don't send your garbage off to bury in somebody else's back yard.
I realize that with scale comes better efficiency and can do better recycling and such. That said Reno should be plenty big to have all that capability local and not send it off to somewhere in the desert to probably just bury.

Maybe it's just jealousy having to live 1 mile from the actual landfill where they bring in trash from a 60 mile radius. Still that landfil has no recycling ability. There is a different one for compost about 2 miles away, and a metal, cardboard place 1.5 miles away. We have no glass or plastic ability that I know of.

[freebeard]

NIMFY -- Not in my front yard?

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by freebeard

NIMFY -- Not in my front yard?

Well, sort of.

[Piotrsko]

Originally Posted by Hersbird

I don't know why but transfer stations kind of piss me off on some level. Like don't send your garbage off to bury in somebody else's back yard.
I realize that with scale comes better efficiency and can do better recycling and such. That said Reno should be plenty big to have all that capability local and not send it off to somewhere in the desert to probably just bury.

Maybe it's just jealousy having to live 1 mile from the actual landfill where they bring in trash from a 60 mile radius. Still that landfil has no recycling ability. There is a different one for compost about 2 miles away, and a metal, cardboard place 1.5 miles away. We have no glass or plastic ability that I know of.

Isn't out in someone else's back yard, we had a couple of valleys at the edge of the county that were considered useless. They are rapidly becoming just hills. We have a crazy guy doing anything compostable in a different direction making and reselling soil amendments.

Don't know what we are doing on recycle other than a dedicated sequestration for pickup. Waste management isn't noted for their care of anything but profit. Before waste management bought the local Tehachapi collecting outfit, it was removing most of the recyclables from the stream and actually recycling them. The local guy was really proud of his efforts, then he retired.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

Letter carriers should have been in EVs a decade ago. Same with garbage trucks and School busses.

The so-called "extended range" EV layout could actually be better suited to some applications, including school buses. Otherwise, school districts would eventually have to hire charter buses for certain activities such as bands or football teams that often are also performed in other areas. Range anxiety would be a PITA.