California to ban selling new gas-powered cars by 2035

[Piotrsko]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

My 2011 leaf can't be hacked unless there is some one running around with stone age 2G cell tower gear.

Depends on the definition of hack and opportunity. CHP has immobilizer stuff, the army has truck mounted city blockers

[freebeard]

Does it have CAN bus?

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[MPG Undercover]

I commend California for its attempt in forcasting the end of the 1850s technology (the internal combustion engine) which has been passed on to us as "modern technology" for much too long now.

What the automakers and the big oil companies have done to humanity is criminal, both in terms of the pollution and the inefficient technology that they have made even more inefficient, through sabotage.

I'm sorry if this sounds extreme or off the wall to some, but it is the truth.

Did you know, for example, that under the BEST maintenance conditions, the average gasoline powered vehicle uses, at most, about 33% of the gasoline that you put into the gas tank to actually move the vehicle forward, and that the other 66% or so is burned in the catalytic converter, and comes out of the tailpipe?

It is actually pathetic when you consider the fact that in the year 2020 we are still talking about carbon build-up in an engine. For that we may as well be driving with a bag of coal in the trunk!

[freebeard]

...the average gasoline powered vehicle uses, at most, about 33% of the gasoline that you put into the gas tank to actually move the vehicle forward, and that the other 66% or so is burned in the catalytic converter, and comes out of the tailpipe?

Disagree.

I assert that 66% of the 66% exits through the radiator.

[oil pan 4]

The gasoline engine puts maybe 25% of its thermal energy towards moving the car. Most of the next 2/3s is blown out the exhaust and cooling system, the remainder goes to engine accessories, brakes ect.
The modern fuel injected engine burns easily 99.8% of the fuel that goes into it. The catalyst burns the remaining 0.1 or 0.2%.

[freebeard]

I forgotted the exhaust.
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[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by MPG Undercover

I commend California for its attempt in forcasting the end of the 1850s technology (the internal combustion engine) which has been passed on to us as "modern technology" for much too long now.

What the automakers and the big oil companies have done to humanity is criminal, both in terms of the pollution and the inefficient technology that they have made even more inefficient, through sabotage.

I'm sorry if this sounds extreme or off the wall to some, but it is the truth.

Did you know, for example, that under the BEST maintenance conditions, the average gasoline powered vehicle uses, at most, about 33% of the gasoline that you put into the gas tank to actually move the vehicle forward, and that the other 66% or so is burned in the catalytic converter, and comes out of the tailpipe?

It is actually pathetic when you consider the fact that in the year 2020 we are still talking about carbon build-up in an engine. For that we may as well be driving with a bag of coal in the trunk!

Welcome!

People in the automotive industry are people, like you and me. They are as much criminal as you and me.

The automobile has been among the most life enhancing inventions of all time. Big Oil is the single greatest thing to happen to humanity in the history of history. Every metric of human wellbeing has been improved as a consequence of fossil fuel innovation. The fact that you type this electronic message for all the world to behold is testament to the power of fossil fuels.

California will experience an exodus as those that do, leave, and those that do not, squander the goodwill of the few that remain.

Originally Posted by freebeard

Hahahaha! Ho. LOL [my sides] Hahahahaha.

https://babylonbee.com/news/californ...rawn-carriages

[oil pan 4]

California be like we can't keep the lights on, so we will force people to buy electric cars. That will fix the problem.

[Piotrsko]

Big article in the WSJ about that and California failure during fire episodes

[redpoint5]

...and rather than admit failure to attend to a major part of his job (prevent out of control fires from destroying nature and property), he spends an hour blaming the outdoor thermostat and science deniers... and there's actually people who that sounds reasonable to.

Is it reasonable to believe CA is in flames due to the 0.01 C rise in temperature that human activity in the US has contributed to, or is it more likely that mismanaged forestry management and bad luck with weather is most to blame?