California to ban selling new gas-powered cars by 2035

[freebeard]

My schadenfreude evaporated when I found out it's the whole Pacific United States plus Vermont and Colorado.

Isaac Zachary -- Can you provide a citation? I have no interest in a gaming graphics card, but I am attracted to a [3D printed] 1U rack of Raspberry Pis for a render farm.


https://thingiverse.com/search?q=ras...+pi+rack+mount...

[Isaac Zachary]

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https://www.energy.ca.gov/sites/defa...%2C%202021.pdf

It's called California's Title 20. It's part of a much bigger set of laws and regulations that affect many other things besides computers.

I know that Linus Tech Tips is going to produce a video where they custom build two PC's, one that's a low tier computer that's hardly fast enough to game on that doesn't meet California's Title 20 energy requirements and one that's, as he puts it, "balls to the wall, top-of-the-end" gaming computer that does meet California's Title 20 energy requirements.

Note that Title 20 only affects prebuilt computers. If you custom build one yourself you can build it however you like, even in California.

From what I've seen it seems that the media has taken this regulation out of context and hyped it up making it look like California is against PC gamers or something like that.

[oil pan 4]

The bam should be ruled unconstitutional on 1st ammendment grounds.

[Isaac Zachary]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

The bam should be ruled unconstitutional on 1st ammendment grounds.

Why's that? The United States of America's first amendment guarantee's freedoms concerning religion, expression, assembly, and the right to petition. I don't see how that relates to an efficiency regulation.

But if Title 20 is unconstitutional, wouldn't that mean all efficiency regulations would be unconstitutional? For an example, cars could burn as much fuel as manufacturers make them to (i.e. bring back the Mazda RX series).

[oil pan 4]

Originally Posted by Isaac Zachary

Why's that? The United States of America's first amendment guarantee's freedoms concerning religion, expression, assembly, and the right to petition. I don't see how that relates to an efficiency regulation.

But if Title 20 is unconstitutional, wouldn't that mean all efficiency regulations would be unconstitutional? For an example, cars could burn as much fuel as manufacturers make them to (i.e. bring back the Mazda RX series).

The computer is the modern equivalent of the printing press, messenger service, book store, art museum, tavern, town hall meeting, it may even be how some people attend their religious service.
So yeah a computer gives all those easily.

[freebeard]

The Constitution of the United States binds the government in chains. The correct antidote to this is an educated populace.

duckduckgo.com/?q=republic+depends+on+educated+citizens

When Facebook ate Myspace's lunch I knew we were in trouble.

[Isaac Zachary]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

The computer is the modern equivalent of the printing press, messenger service, book store, art museum, tavern, town hall meeting, it may even be how some people attend their religious service.
So yeah a computer gives all those easily.

But a car could be said to be all of those too.

And it's not that all computers are banned. Only new prebuilt ones that don't go into sleep after 30 minutes by default.

[freebeard]

I watched the video and now I'm more confused (than usual).

High-expandability computers require a 600 Watt power supply? Is the Raspberry Pi 40-pin GPIO included?

GPIO (General Purpose Input/Output) Definition
https://techterms.com/definition/gpio
GPIO Stands for "General Purpose Input/Output." GPIO is a type of pin found on an integrated circuit that does not have a specific function. While most pins have a dedicated purpose, such as sending a signal to a certain component, the function of a GPIO pin is customizable and can be controlled by software.

It has two 5V pins.

5v Power at Raspberry Pi GPIO Pinout
https://pinout.xyz/pinout/pin2_5v_power
Physical/Board pin 2 The 5v power pins are connected directly to the Pi's power input and will capably provide the full current of your mains adaptor, less that used by the Pi itself. With a decent power supply, such as the official 3A adapter on the Pi 4, you can expect to pull about 1A to 2A.

Offtopic, sosume:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko-udLtaPk8

Actually, since it's mostly about shut-down/restart controlled by the car's key, maybe it is.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Is the Raspberry Pi 40-pin GPIO included?

Until recently I didn't even know what a Raspberry Pi was.

[Isaac Zachary]

Raspberry Pi shouldn't be affected.

Say you have a company that sells computers and computer parts.

Indivudual parts are unaffected.

Educational and expirimental stuff (like the Raspberry Pi) are also unaffected.

But then you got your prebuilt computers.

Ones that are not very expandable (upgradeabl)e and don't have a lot of processing power have to use a very small amount of energy and shut off at a certain time to be sold anywhere Title 20 is in place. So stuff like laptops, all-in-ones and mini computers all fall in this category. They are not (very) "expandable" because (most) everything is soldered together. You can't upgrade the CPU, you can't add another stick of RAM, there are no PCIe slots so no way to add a graphics card internally, the SSD is soldered to the motherboard so that can't be upgraded. These computers have to use very little electricity compared to the rest or they can't be sold.

But take a full sized ATX tower computer for another example. Even if you get one with a Core i3 or Ryzen 3 processor, no graphics card a small mechanical hard drive and only 2GB of RAM, this computer can use substantially more power than a "non-expandable" one and still be sold. That's because you could put in a Core i9 or Ryzen 9, up the RAM to 64GB, swap out the hard drive for a blazing fast SSD and stick in dual graphics cards if you so desired. It could still fail if the PSU isn't efficient enough or you don't make it go to sleep in 30 minutes by default, or if you don't get it certified. But in the end, it shouldn't be hard to do on such a computer.

There's a lot of things that can be done to tweak a computer to use as much power or as little as you want. Usually the last couple percent of performance can nearly double the power consumption. Just throttle it back just a little and get a good PSU so it doesn't use much while idle either and you could easily pass the new regulation.