01-13-2023, 12:23 AM
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Is there any possible way this is related to falling off the jack or just my continued bad luck?!
The replacement was $14.13 through Amazon, and it will be here tomorrow.
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You're getting replacement luck for $14.13?
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I supposedly bought spark plugs, but I don't see any receipts for buying coils. I also have an AC sanitizer.
Big Two said I needed those, wipers, air filters, a fuel injection flush, and then big stuff.
The fuel injector cleaner is with some MAF and throttle bottle cleaner I bought.
I just need to find my spark plugs and put those with everything else.
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You're doing a tune up on a car with a major oil leak? I'd say stop the bleeding first, and then consider the ancillary components.
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01-13-2023, 12:24 AM
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Why would I reinstall old spark plugs?
I found them by the way--by accident.
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01-13-2023, 12:08 PM
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Until I got my diesels, I always reused spark plugs unless there was hardly any electrodes left and I couldn't regap them. Labor to re gap was essentially free vs at the time $20 for 8 plugs. Never bought sparkplugs for the airplane.
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01-18-2023, 12:17 AM
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Never bought sparkplugs for the airplane.
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I wouldn't try it, not even if flying on ethanol which has been quite usual for cropdusters in my country. Not only due to spark plug gaps, but also because the fouling with lead crystals is a major PITA.
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01-18-2023, 02:09 AM
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Each time I went to work on it Mom took too much insulin, needed me to drive her to get more insulin, etc., but finally tonight I removed the valve cover, and I never expected this!
I need to remove that junk, right?!
So far I also need to replace a hose and the seal under the back of the hood.
Both are soaked with oil. The seal stretched and the hose broke when I attempted to remove it from the valve cover.
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01-18-2023, 11:59 PM
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Apparently Toyota calls the valve cover the "Cylinder head cover!" :)
I finally found the factory service manual, but apparently Toyota doesn't have a Table of Contents or an index like Honda, and when I searched it didn't show "Valve cover" once in 1,554 pages!
I started going through the instructions for replacing the head gasket and found this!
I [thought I] found knock-off FSMs. Apparently I found the factory service manual pretty quickly. I still think that I found some fakes--I clicked on a link claiming to have over 1,000 pages, but it only had 5-10 and ads, but apparently Toyota wrote “Work for preventing gasoline from spilling out” and gave big instructions that we are supposed to be able to figure out on our own, not specifying where everything is, or how to do what it says.
That phrase didn't make sense and apparently errors were made in copying, but I wasted all day!
This is the complete FSM: PDF ONLINE – Toyota Camry 2002 – 2006 Service Repair Manual
This is one of many pieces without links to other sections (that wouldn't really work) Cylinder head gasket (2AZ−FE)(From July, 2003)
Clicking on the search function pulled up a page without a search box. Searching Google for "Valve cover" and "Cylinder head cover" didn't have valid results.
I searched for "Cylinder head cover gasket" and found these:
This is from what appears to be a knock-off:
Close enough.
I hadn't thought the number and logo in the bottom corners were important; I cropped those.
However, that diagram wasn't in the page that I linked, it was here: Camshaft (2AZ−FE)(From July, 2003)
I found several pages and found some bits and pieces that I need, but not everything.
Apparently Toyota doesn't care about the exact order we use to bolt the valve cover back. It says: - Apply seal packing to the 2 locations shown in the illustration. Seal packing: Part No. 08826−00080 or equivalent.
- Remove any oil from the contact surface.
- Install the cylinder head cover within 5 minutes after
applying seal packing.
- Do not apply engine oil for at least 2 hours after installing.
- Install the cylinder head cover with the 8 bolts and 2 nuts.
Torque: 11 N⋅m (112 kgf⋅cm, 8 ft⋅lbf)
When I finally found the right part of the FSM I saw that someone shared this: Camry L4-2.4L (2AZ-FE) (2005)
It has everything but applying the gasketmaker, so that could be problematic!
It seems like my PCV valve hose broke when I was trying to remove it.
I was able to rotate it! Why couldn't I remove it?!
Toyota says that it is $24. We will see if the place in-town has it. I cannot find an aftermarket one locally, but I am sure the Orally men can come up with something.
It was soaked with oil, as is the cowl seal, for which Toyota charges $38.
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01-19-2023, 11:11 AM
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I was only able to sleep 4 hours and it is 13°F, but my brother hadn't gotten up and laid on the couch yet, so I figured that I could work on my car without bothering him.
He just got up and laid on the couch.
I need to: - Find the Hondabond and leave it somewhere warm.
- Clean the oil out of the spark plug wells. Finally replace the spark plugs when I change the oil if they stay clean?
- Remove the PCV hose.
- Wipe off the valve cover. Is foot powder bad for an engine?
- Buy some $2 airbrush cleaning brushes from Harbor Freight and clean out the gasketmaker in one of the bolt holes.
- Call Hatch Toyota at 08 and see if they have a PCV valve. If not, see the orally men.
- Go over the mating surface again to ensure it is clean.
- Check the valve cover and head for cracks. I keep reading about cracks in the metal causing leaks!
- Apply Hondabond by the timing chain.
- Install the new gasket and tighten the fasteners with some realistic criss-cross applesauce action. What do you think of this? Don't care?
- Torque to 8 foot-pounds.
- Set the oil pan heater on the valve cover with a fire brick on top and check the temperatures over 2 hours.
- Reinstall the coils and wires.
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01-20-2023, 02:26 AM
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None of that seemed like it would take long, but it rarely does.
It seemed to take hours to find my Hondabond, but I straightened quite a bit of my room.
I need to clear off my bed again.
I made my brother's breakfast, supervised his speech therapy, took him to lunch, Dollar Tree, and Harbor Freight, and made whatever this is:
When do I fix my car?!
I twisted shop towels and pushed them into my spark plug wells, and then twisted in the other end.
The top and bottom quarters of one of the towels was soaked, so I put a clean one in there.
I just want to spray brake cleaner in there and then compressed air.
I don't have misfires.
The PCV hose was difficult, but for some reason it and the other hose have outer hoses, and I need to figure out to work the other outer hose back.
I didn't use the wire brush. That should only take a minute--when I remember.
I called Hatch and just left a voice mail. I sent an e-mail and the guy called back.
He said it will take a day or two for the hose and 1-2 weeks for the cowl gasket.
About eighty dollars for two relatively-small pieces of rubber.
They are open Saturday, so hopefully I have it this week.
I tried using my pink plastic scraper and pink razor, but they just bent, so I used my carbide scraper to clean the mating surfaces, but I went along with the mating surface, so the scratches go the right way.
The beads of seal packing are for where the timing cover attaches.
I don't have clients until 1300 tomorrow, so hopefully I can knock out a bunch more.
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01-20-2023, 11:40 AM
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Might be called a Galette which is a free form french pie folded over like that. Filling negotiable.
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01-21-2023, 12:57 AM
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Resembles a focaccia.
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