05-26-2009, 12:22 AM
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The other easy option. . .remove the bulbs. Its not likely to short anything otherwise its the dumbest design since series christmas lights. . .
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05-26-2009, 01:19 AM
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you forgot to look again.
look at the drawing carefully, please.
see , if you remove the bulbs , you loose the normal function.
all cars are diff,diff models , and all countries have diff rules. (on lighting)
so you must get the drawings for a specific veh. before you can guess.
cutting the wire, or removing or cutting the bulb contact will kill all low beams for ever.
the DRL has 2 modes:
1: sends full power to the Low beams ( normal mode) " and a dark detector"
2: or it sends low power (voltage is less) to the low beam filaments.
that is how it works (plus some logic)l
look at the drawing and , it is exactly correct for 99 monte.
cheers/
PS: please dont drive on high beams for ever.
it could be bad for you. and others.
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05-26-2009, 01:41 AM
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Really. . .thats retarded.
The Civics DRLs are a different bulb. Incorporating DRLs into your regular lights is assinine. . .it makes it far more likely to toast your truly needed actual low beams. . .
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05-26-2009, 03:54 AM
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this is no honda , its a 99 monte.
and you are wrong (sorry) i have the lamp engineering book in my lap.
when you reduce the voltage to any lamp the life time shoots up many fold.
that is why they use a simple method,
saves wire. (copper times may million)
saves extra bulbs.
and all the effort, costs and wasted resources of the more complex.
this technique is common as nails. here.
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05-26-2009, 01:03 PM
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Not having them lit at all extends the life even further.
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05-26-2009, 01:29 PM
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and pardon my saying the obvious.
except the humans.
3rd rear tail light , useless (data)
DRL, life savers.
see and be seen. ( no all the idiots driving can even see)
I drove a Motorcycle for 15years, and i learned this real fast. Click.
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05-26-2009, 01:37 PM
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Quote:
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The Civics DRLs are a different bulb. Incorporating DRLs into your regular lights is assinine. . .it makes it far more likely to toast your truly needed actual low beams. . .
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Except for the fact that GMs use the high beams for DRLs, not the low beams. That is, the ones that use the headlights -- some GMs use the turn signals.
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05-26-2009, 01:42 PM
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that is why i made the comment,
all cars, models and countries can be different.
and the lighting rules are all different in these countries.
DRL is done , every way you can imagine.
all you have to do is.
walk into any library , walk up to the terminal , and print out the schematic for your car.
on the screen, click E-sources. then AutoRepair.
behold.
your car, your drawings, no more guessing.
so before you hack your car to death , look at the road map.
gee, if the high beams were used, that is even better
after all
what do you want to go bad first.
Highs
or Lows.
think it through, and look at the design life maps on GE bulbs .
see the Life hour , on reduced current .
some are 5000 hr. at 14.7v and and 10v are 25000.
the curves are not linear but logarithmic and life extends greatly at lover voltages.
if you need the books they are free on line , just read them.
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05-26-2009, 04:28 PM
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DRLs don't save lives lol.
By law if its raining you have to have your lights on. Thats the only time your light should run between sunup and sun down. The low lumen lights are not even comparable to a small glare off a windshield.
The reason motorcyclists get hit is because they are too small. At 300 feet you can fit a rider and motorcycle into the human blindspot. Obviously you can't hide them where you could hit them . . .but you might only be able to see part of their helmet with other cars and columns inside your car.
They put DRLs on so that they can tout their car as safer. I hit a car that had DRLs. Had nothing to do with not seeing them.
Most accidents don't. Most accidents are driver error as a result of speeding, unable to react quickly enough to a change in circumstances, minor twitch of the steering and over-correcting. . .Its usually not the driver didn't see the other vehicle.
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05-26-2009, 04:38 PM
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Quote:
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and you are wrong (sorry) i have the lamp engineering book in my lap.
when you reduce the voltage to any lamp the life time shoots up many fold.
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It is not recommended to dim halogens since the halogen cycle will not work if the bulb does not warm up enough.
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