02-02-2012, 01:57 PM
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So shouldn't the EPA make an updated rating? I guess they only do that for new cars.
Makes sense now.
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02-02-2012, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by brucey
Aren't the numbers published by the EPA, and not Honda? That's the part of the suit that is so weird to me.
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Hmm. This is all news to me. Perhaps the 50 mpg figure was cited in a commercial? That's my best guess.
Imagine if Honda's defense attorney requested a trial run to prove that the car is capable of 50 mpg, and then if the judge begrudgingly granted his request...and he beat 50!
Ah, that's sounds more like a movie ending.
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02-02-2012, 02:12 PM
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50 mpg is the combined rating prior to the 2008 EPA testing changes.
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02-02-2012, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Arctic Fox
I like this part:
When I sell my Dodge, I'll put a sticker on it saying it gets 150mpg. (if it's going down a 150 mile hill with a tail wind, AC off, windows rolled up, and someone pushing)
What? It could get that much.
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how convienent for you that you left out the part about FEDERAL LAW
Honda is not 'claiming' (check the definition)
Honda is STATING the required information required by the EPA.
The difference is....you would be intentionally decieving the buyer.
Honda is not.
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02-02-2012, 05:21 PM
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Remember when Top Gear ran the Prius against the M3, and the M3 got better mileage?
If a Prius can be made to get less than 20 mpg, then any car on earth could easily get below 50 mpg!
But, there ya' go. No need for brains, just ask the judge!
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02-02-2012, 07:42 PM
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Don't all EPA window stickers say "your mileage may vary" on them?
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Peters, after being contacted by more than 500 Civic owners through her DontSettleWithHonda.org website, where she outlined the steps of her lawsuit, said she plans to reactivate her state law license to represent other Civic owners against Honda.
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Wonder how much of this was a self-promotion exercise. (What, me cynical?)
Woman Wins Honda Lawsuit Over Civic Hybrid Fuel-Efficiency Claims - MSN Autos
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02-02-2012, 10:05 PM
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I still throw this in the same bin with "McDonald's made me fat."
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02-02-2012, 11:39 PM
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I just skimmed this whole thread again, wasn't/isn't the issue that Honda recalled/asked owner to bring their car back to resolve a issue (reprogram cpu or what ever) that seemed to reduce useage of the battery to avoid battery failure while under warnatty at the expense of MPG. My older brother (so fairly reliable source) has a Accord hybrid (3.0 v6 why?) and lost MPG after a reprogramming?. I know he asked to have it returned to pre reprogramming and they wouldn't/couldn't.
I can understand being irrated by having Honda "fix" my car only to lose 5-7 mpg like my brother claims, if they did it to cover their ass, hit them with the 10k each.
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02-03-2012, 07:23 PM
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I agree that the reflash is more of an issue here, which is why I won't let Honda touch my car. There's an open recall on part of the airbag system but I don't know if I trust them to do it without screwing with the computer.
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02-08-2012, 04:11 PM
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How to sue for bad mpg
Ok, I've seen some stupid law suits, but this one takes the cake.
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American Honda is now appealing the $9,867 judgment Peters won in a small-claims court after complaining that her car got far less than the 50 mpg Honda advertised.
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Full story here
Seriously, I guess I'll have to stop using the expression "your mileage may vary" because apparently how you drive doesn't or shouldn't matter. <sarchasm & eye roll>
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